Saw the post about Yamy S&Cs - thanks, I was not aware of that. IMHO, all the REAL S&Cs are low end - right down there with Kimball & Winter & Sons. BUT, IMHO, pianos of this age (1961) are best judged on an individual basis, i.e. condition will likely play a bigger role in the piano's desirability than its original quality. IMHO, a 10-year-old Kimball console in excellent condition is likely going to be a better piano for a beginner than a 1968 Yamaha P-22 (an otherwise premium starter and mid-level piano) that has been the recipient of a daily dose of 14 hours of Racmannanov (SP? - too lazy to look up!) in a university practice room for the past 35 years! When I do a pre-purchase inspection, I have a brief chat with my client before looking at the piano (usually over the phone when setting up the appointment) and tell them that during the inspection I may make a few comments, but they will generally only address negative aspects of the piano (that way the seller gets prepared for the buyers justification to negotiate a lower price). Then when I am done the buyer and I need to talk in private and I will tell the client all the good and bad about the piano. I am generally willing to give normal value ranges for a piano in private to my client, but any specific price negotiation is strictly between seller and buyer - I stay miles away from any of that! Terry Farrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" <tune4u@earthlink.net> To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 12:41 AM Subject: RE: What's the Story & Clark? AND ... This states it right. In this case, however, it was mostly the prospective buyer who gushed poetic about the piano and the deal. I think part of the consulting service might include just a bit of suggestion in the fine art of negotiating! I remember a movie seen where an amateur card player is dealt four kings, or something; his eyes open wide and he says something like “ooowowee.” To which one of the other players responds: “Come on, Poker Face, you in or out?” Re: Original message. Anybody got any generic thoughts on early 60’s Story & Clark consoles. Seems to me they were neither very good nor very bad, just another mass-market piano sold as pretty furniture … something halfway between Baldwin and Winter & Sons. Your vote? Alan R. Barnard Salem, MO -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Tompiano@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:29 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: What's the Story & Clark? AND ... Alan, I've learned some valuable lessons a long time ago with respect to who's paying who for what. If a potential buyer wants my paid opinion on a particular instrument, then they are the sold beneficiary and not the seller. What condition I find the instrument in or what is a fair price is none of the seller's business. The seller should not be entitled to my professional evaluation when they haven't ordered it nor paid for it. Now when the seller is the one paying for it then they are the ones who get the full attention. Tom Servinsky, RPT --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 6/10/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 6/10/2003
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