OK, Bruce, You didn't say it was that long ago. I took my "Craftsman" test even before that. While Aubrey Willis was still helping give them! Unfortunately, I let my membership lapse, so I ended up having to take the new one! On a grand, of course! :-) Avery At 08:40 PM 06/22/03 -0400, you wrote: >Avery, > >eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeup! It was 1981 on the Yamaha upright (U1 maybe?) in the >apartment of our late friend, Newton Hunt, assisted by Mike Miccio & Evan >Giller, all CTEs I believe. The verdict was " whadaya think guys? .....he >can tune". I'm proud to believe I have not let them down. > >ah, the good ole days.....I think machines took over the next year. >Bruce > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Avery Todd" <avery@ev1.net> >To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> >Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 7:27 PM >Subject: Re: OT More Realistic Test was RE: tuning exam in U.S. > > > > Bruce, > > > > You took your tuning test on a vertical??????? I'm a CTE and as far as I > > know, NO one takes their tuning exam on a vertical! > > > > Avery > > > > At 01:06 PM 06/22/03 -0400, you wrote: > > >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = > > >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = > > >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = > > >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"> > > >Alan, Thanks for the humor - some days there just isn't > > >enough - actually, I did take my tuning exam on a Yamaha vertical > > >without benefit of acutuner - just 3 pairs of RPT ears. Bruce > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: <mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net>Alan > > >>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>'Pianotech' > > >>Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 12:51 AM > > >>Subject: OT More Realistic Test was RE: tuning exam in U.S. > > >> > > >>I think it would be a much more realistic test-with regard to the >reality > > >>of the tuner's life--if we were required to tune a 1940's-1960's spinet > > >>(Betsy Ross, Winter & Sons, P.A. Stark or comparable). No Acusonics! > > >>Wurlitzers may suffice if they've been stored in a garage with broken > > >>windows in Louisiana or Saskatchewan for at least twenty years. > > >> > > >>The passing requirement would be that a panel of amateur musicians can > > >>recognize the sound of it as something at least sort of a little bit >kind > > >>of musical in nature. If more than two panel members cry, moan, or run > > >>from the room, you flunk. > > >> > > >>And the selected piano would have to be in reasonable condition, defined > > >>as follows (additional rules interspersed): > > >> > > >> * No more than six missing strings; no more than two of which may be > > >> single bass strings. No more than five bichord sets may have strings > > >> that match in diameter, length of wrap, and degree of rustiness. > > >> * Some felt must be visible between hammer molding and strings on at > > >> least 1/3" of the treble notes. No more than 8 felts popped off bass > > >> hammers. Tenor hammer grooves less than ½" deep, on average. > > >> * When played, bass strings must make some sort of noise that > > >> sustains for at least 0.27 seconds. If the hammer thwack reverberates > > >> this long, it must not be louder than the string noise. > > >> * At least one pedal must move up and down when pressed (sideways > > >> movement does not count but is otherwise allowed). > > >> * Broken key tops with sharp edges are allowed. The prospective RPT > > >> should have a supply of Band-Aids on hand or on foot. Band-Aids may NOT > > >> be used to repair or muffle any piano part! > > >> * When pressed, at least 37 keys must come back up within two >minutes > > >> WITHOUT excessive help from the player. Thumping the piano with a fist > > >> is permitted; screw drivers and pry bars are not. > > >> * Bench must not completely collapse when sat upon by persons with > > >> average-sized, average weight buttocks. > > >> * Squeaks, rattles, and woody thunks must not be louder, on average, > > >> than played notes. > > >> * If the tuner is unable to open the lid, remove the front panel, or > > >> otherwise gain access to the tuning pins within three hours, he or she > > >> is permitted to ask the piano owner how the hell previous tuners did >it. > > >> * If A4 is more than 153 cents sharp or flat, the tuner is allowed >an > > >> extra ten minutes for a pitch adjustment but he must not charge the > > >> piano owner any extra for this. > > >> * Bridges must still be stuck to something inside the piano. > > >> * There must be no more than one inch of plastic elbow dust and >mouse > > >> poop (combined) on the bottom board. Measurements will be taken in > > >> eleven locations and averaged. Dead spiders may be removed before > > >> measuring; leave the live ones alone. Local chapters may decide if >snake > > >> skins and/or snakes may be removed or must be measured. Note: If the > > >> bottom board is missing or all debris has sifted through a humongous > > >> crack in the board, this requirement may be waved. > > >> * If the pinblock is in average condition or worse, the tuner is > > >> allowed an extra twenty minutes of tuning time and may use up to three > > >> liquids, four sheets of sandpaper, and a 2½ lb. sledge hammer to fine > > >> tune the instrument. Note: If the tuner accidentally (or purposefully) > > >> affixes any protruding part of his or her body to any part of the piano > > >> or to any tool, he or she must continue with the test as best he or she > > >> can-using his or her other hand or doing it with his or her forehead > > >> "resting" on the bench, for example. The tuner is discouraged from > > >> holding tools with his or her teeth as this is considered undignified. > > >> If the tuner accidentally (or purposefully) affixes his or her teeth to > > >> any part of the piano, he or she is immediately disqualified and all > > >> observers will leave the room so the tuner can work out his or her >problem. > > >> * Finally, there will be no effort made to "de-tune" the piano prior > > >> to the test as this process, however random or planned, would almost > > >> certainly make the piano sound better. > > >> > > >> > > >>Faked medical emergencies will not stop the test from proceeding! If > > >>there appears to be actual loss of consciousness AND the skin assumes a > > >>deep blue color, the committee chairman may ask the judging panel to > > >>"hurry it along," just in case. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Bribes are a private matter. It would be of questionable taste to >discuss > > >>financial arrangements or flash any cash in front of the whole group. > > >>Personal checks will not be accepted. For your convenience, there will >be > > >>credit card terminals in the back of the room on the table next to where > > >>the Grief Counselors and uninvited street bums are sitting. (The > > >>counselors will have special name tags, the bums will have ordinary name > > >>tags, just like yours.) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>And-this is important-during the test evaluation, the tuner (and any > > >>possible accomplices) are strictly forbidden from humming, whacking a > > >>chair leg with a spoon, or in any other manner trying to simulate (or > > >>cover up) sounds coming from the alleged piano. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>After all, we have our standards. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Alan R. Barnard > > >> > > >>Salem, MO > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On > > >>Behalf Of Dave Nereson > > >>Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 10:05 PM > > >>To: Pianotech > > >>Subject: Re: tuning exam in U.S. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: <mailto:alanforsyth@fortune4.fsnet.co.uk>Alan Forsyth > > >>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>Pianotech > > >>Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:49 PM > > >>Subject: Tuning narrow and wide > > >> > > >>Tony Caught, Adelaide Australia wrote; > > >> > > >> >>>"In America when you sit for a tuning exam, can you do the exam on a > > >>Yamaha U1 piano ?....">>> > > >> > > >>Probably the easiest piano in the world to tune aurally! > > >> > > >>No, our Piano Technicians Guild tuning exam requires a 6-foot or larger > > >>grand in reasonably good condition. > > >> --David Nereson, RPT > > >> > > >> > > >>--- > > >>Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > >>Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 6/10/2003 > > >> > > >>--- > > >>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > >>Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 6/10/2003 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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