TuneLab

Greg Newell gnewell@ameritech.net
Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:09:29 -0400


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Harry,
         I've used TuneLab since TLab97 and find it to be a great tool in=20
the realm of ETD's. Nowhere is a better bargain to be found that provides,=
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in my view and that of others, just as good a result as any of the other=20
offerings. It is NOT the final judge of what is a good tuning but is a=20
great tool to help get you there. It's the best unsung hero of the crowd=
 IMHO.

Greg Newell



At 10:19 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote:

>Hi all,
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>Does anyone use Tunelab? I cant see myself being able to afford a SAT in=20
>the near future and would like an aid to the aural tuning I am doing now.
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>Comments O wise ones!
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>Cheers
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>Harry
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>Harry Pickett
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On=20
>Behalf Of Richard Strang
>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:01 PM
>To: 'Pianotech'
>Subject: RE: Restringing
>
>
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>I learned how to make a pretty nice loop using  a pair of vise grips and a=
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>screw driver. I make a loop and clamp it with the vise grips, lightly of=20
>course, then stick the screw drive through the loop and twist 6 or 7=20
>times. Comes out just fine for some of the clunkers I work on.
>
>
>
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On=20
>Behalf Of Dave Bunch
>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:36 PM
>To: Pianotech
>Subject: Re: Restringing
>
>As far as loop makers go, I would warn someone new to this to avoid the=20
>loop makers with the crank commonly seen in the catalogs. They are good=20
>for nothing but breaking wire. With just a little practice, one can make a=
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>first rate loop by hand using nothing more than a nail in a vise. This=20
>will work fine for the 99% of pianos that have just one or two looped=
 strings.
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>Dave Bunch
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>----- Original Message -----
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>From: <mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net>Alan
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>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>'Pianotech'
>
>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:28 AM
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>Subject: RE: Restringing
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>
>
>Yes ...
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>Not a complete treatise, but a few thoughts.
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>First time, it will take you close to three 8-days.
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>An experienced person can do it in about two days.
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>I don't think it's fair for people to pay for my "learning curves," so I=20
>would bill the job based on, say, 18 hours.
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>Take the job. Learn and earn.
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>Critical things to have, purchase, or make-your-own ...
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>1.       A pinblock jack
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>2.       Coil maker
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>3.       2=BD lb sledge hammer (for fine tuning and watch repair)
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>4.       Real wire cutters, not pin nippers or light duty electrical=
 "dikes"
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>5.       Heavy gloves or, better yet, glass-handler's gloves
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>6.       Eye=20
>protection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Many jobs=20
>call for eye protection: Restringing SCREAMS for it. Wear industrial eye=20
>protection, the kind that protects from the sides,=20
>too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>7.       Band-Aids (Don't make your own.)
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>Helpful things to have ...
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>1.       A =BD" drive variable speed electric drill with "pin removing bit"=
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>(see archives). =BC" drill will not do, doesn't have enough torque,=20
>especially at slower speeds and you don't want to spin the pins so fast=20
>that you set the piano on fire or, more likely, damage the holes.
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>2.       New set of pin collars (depending). New hitch pin punchings,=20
>felts, braid, etc. (depending)
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>3.       Tuning pin crank
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>4.       Loop maker
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>Look up in the archives or read Reblitz, etc., about measuring strings,=20
>marking where string sizes change, etc.
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>
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>Examine the piano carefully before you start:
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>1.       Make sure the legs are secure and nothing is wobbly. 999/1000=20
>times this is no problem. The 1/1000th time, a disaster can ensue.
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>2.       Pull the lid hinge pins with the lid closed. Unless it is a very=
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>small piano, get the owner or someone to help you lift off the lid and put=
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>it in a safe place.
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>3.       Examine the pinblock and bridges very carefully. Discuss problems=
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>with owner. NOW is the time to make any repairs.
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>4.       Note any problems or anticipated problems. Write them down. Have=
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>the owner look at them with you and sign the paper acknowledging the=20
>problems. Again 1/1000, but you don't want any arguments later. I would=20
>take a torque wrench and measure each pin-or at least a good sampling-as I=
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>made the first tension reduction turns of the pin to make sure you spot=20
>any "patterns" suggesting block damage or any pin holes that might need a=
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>little epoxy, etc. Easier to do it now than to have to remove pins later.
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>Have fun.
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>Alan R. Barnard
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>Salem, MO
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On=20
>Behalf Of Richard Strang
>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:14 AM
>To: pianotech (E-mail)
>Subject: Restringing
>
>
>
>Hello, all,
>
>     Piano restringing has always been a little out of my line of work, as=
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> I do not have a shop. However, I have a good customer that is requesting=
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> me to restring his grand on site, and I'm debating on whether I should=20
> accept the job or not. Any advice?
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>
>
>Richard
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Greg Newell
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