Kansas, I see loose tuning pins, loose bridge pins (lots of wild strings), lots of (but not particularly wide) soundboard cracks, loose hammer heads, zero or negative bearing, negative soundboard crown, and a truly wretched low tenor and usually killer octave as a result. generally poor tuning stability and erratic and unpredictable reaction to humidity changes. I don't know what the soundboards were made of in these pianos 20+years ago, but from what I've seen it is softer and more prone to compression damage and splintering (as opposed to big cracks) than pianos of similar age produced in this country They tend to not be as generally bad in the high humidity of Summer, and much worse in the low humidity of Winter. A piano that adequately passes a technical inspection in June might very well be untunable in January. The other thing that seems to be almost universally ignored is that these are usually 20+ year old pianos, which have been used anywhere from sparsely in someone's home, to abusively in some institution. They have very little resemblance to current production new Yamahas made for your home town. If the piano had been in the RH of it's dreams for it's entire life, and is sold into a similarly perfect climate, it would still not be something that can be either endorsed, nor condemned out of hand without taking into account it's current condition. Throw the climate shift (or non-shift, depending on where they end up) into the mix, and it makes it even less rational to either endorse or condemn these pianos categorically. Being Yamahas, we think we can assume that they weren't outright junk when they were new, or this situation would never have developed in the first place. Just being a 20 year old used piano, the expectation from the name already exceeds the reality of the unit, and there is no longer a name/value connection except to the dealer selling it. In those instances (as happens with used pianos of all types) when a customer finds out the hard way that they don't own the piano they think they bought, they become noticeably less satisfied owners. Gray market Yamahas are like any other used piano. They should be judged based on what they were when they were new, where they came from, what sort of climate and usage they have experienced through their lives, a reasonably comprehensive shakedown of their current condition and sound, and lastly if the piano seen before you, with the name it carries, is worth the price and is a good risk for purchase. In my area, they tend to be troublesome, just like a used piano of any other name that has come into town from it's first 25 years of life in Florida or Louisiana. If anyone missed any of this thread, don't worry. It will all be repeated from beginning to end every 6 - 8 months. Ron N
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