first gigs!

Mike Spalding mjbkspal@execpc.com
Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:10:21 -0600


Charles,

Congratulations, and well done!  It's all about learning from your
experience, isn't it?

Regarding the generic tuning curve for bringing notes up to pitch before
sampling, doesn't Tunelab come with a tuning file named "average", along
with some other sample pianos?  Any of those would get you close enough for
a valid sample, or even a valid pitch raise from 120 cents flat.

regards,

Mike Spalding RPT


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Neuman" <piano@charlesneuman.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:11 PM
Subject: first gigs!


> I had my first two "real" customers recently (i.e. paying customers who I
> didn't know). I learned a few things:
>
> 1) Both customers wanted me to be done after about 1.5 hours. It took me 2
> hours to tune one piano and to fix a slow key. On the other piano, it took
> me 2.5 hours to do a 120 cent pitch raise and a fine tuning. So in the
> future I think I'll warn ahead of time how much time I need.
>
> 2) Since I left in a hurry, each customer got a free mute in the bottom of
> their piano. From now on, I'm tying two mutes together with string.
>
> 3) It's all about the unisons.
>
> 4) About that 120 cent pitch raise: As I was closing up the piano, I
> noticed heat from the electric baseboard heater right behind the piano.
> What's going to happen in the summer? Will the piano be 120 cents sharp?
> The fact is, the piano hadn't been tuned for 7 years, so much of the 120
> cents might be from that. I wonder how much is from the dry heat, though.
> The piano was surprisingly in tune with itself for not being tuned in 7
> years.  Kimball spinet. Not so bad. There was a little rust on the
> strings, but I used a tiny amount of CLP and also dropped pitch before
> raising. No broken strings.
>
> 5) Using Tunelab for the pitch raise: You need to set your tuning curve
> before doing the pitch raise. But measuring inharmonicity is not accurate
> when a note is 120 cents flat as the harmonic structure is different than
> it will be when the note is in tune. So, you can rough tune the notes
> you'll meausure. Problem: You don't have a tuning curve yet, so how do you
> tune them? The Tunelab manual suggests using a generic tuning curve to
> rough tune the notes you'll use to measure inharmonicity. Since I haven't
> made a generic tuning curve yet, what I did was just took the measurements
> as the notes were (but matching up the piano's C# with Tunelab's C). Then
> after the pitch raise, I measured inharmonicity again and made a new
> tuning curve for the fine tuning. It worked out well. The fine tuning
> didn't require too much change, expect maybe in the top octave. But
> everything else was amazingly close.
>
> 6) It's hard work. But then you get paid! :)
>
> Charles Neuman
> PTG Assoc, Long Island
>
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