This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I see the point about if the action center is on the string plane and = the hammer raked so that it is perpendicular to the string plane when = the hammer tip hits the strings, the hammer tip will move through a = circular arc steadily going up until it is traveling exactly horizontal = at the moment it hits the string. Ahhhhhh, that's it! The hammer tip will not only contact the string when = it is perpendicular to the string plane, its motion will also be = perpendicular to the string plane at that moment! In the case where the hammer butt centers are equidistant from the = string plane as the hammer bore, and as such the hammers are bored at 90 = degrees, when that hammer hits the strings, its orientation will be = perpendicular to the strings, but its motion will be at some downward = angle toward the strings. Or am I wrong? Hard to picture in mind accurately. But at least the = raked hammer travels in the same arc as the shank tip, the right-angled = hammer travels in a converging arc to the shank tip. To what = advantage/disadvantage is that? Thought I had it, but obviously still mixed up. Terry Farrell =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "James Ellis" <claviers@onemain.com> To: <Pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:53 AM Subject: Rake Angle, and More > I see that my comments about "rake angle" have stirred up other = comments > and arguments. All I was trying to do was to show you fellows that = just > because the hammer is pointed straight toward the string, it does not = mean > that it is moving in that direction. >=20 > Someone sent a jpeg image to illustrate a point. My computer has jpeg = as > well as psp, but that illustration came through as two pages of = jibberish. > The system either can't handle it, or else I don't have the right = version > of jpeg to read it. It doesn't matter. I understood what he was = talking > about. >=20 > I was trying to expose a fallacy, and I think it worked. I was not > advocating some crazy impractical design. Theory and practicality = often > don't go hand in hand. >=20 > A few years ago, many piano technicians believed that a tuning hammer = with > a very short head would reduce the bending force on the tuning pin = despite > the fact that the head was bored at a very high angle, which elevated = the > handle and put the tuner's hand high up in the air. (I'm using a = grand > piano for illustration.) I saw that I was getting nowhere when I told = them > that the very high angle of the handle defeated the effect of the very > short head, because it put the application of force high up above the > tuning pin. So finally I said, "OK, keep raising the angle of the = handle > until you have it pointing straight up. Now, what will that do"? = PAUSE - > PAUSE. "OH, yeah, now I see it"! Well, I was not advocating a tuning > hammer with the handle pointing straight up. I was using an absurd > illustration to make a point, and it worked. >=20 > As long as we have actions where hammers are attached to shanks that = swing > in arcs, we will have hammers that do not move straight toward the = strings. > No matter what we do, that hammer is going to be rotating about an = axis as > it moves toward the string, and the crown will hit the string a = somewhat > glancing blow. All we are trying to do is to minimize that glancing = blow. > Actions have been visualized in people's minds that enable the hammers = to > hit the strings straight on, but they are very impractical, so we = don't go > there. We just stay with what is practical, and try to minimize the > shortcomings. >=20 > Sincerely, Jim Ellis, RPT >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/e7/18/bf/09/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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