Upright Wippen Rebuilding Questions

gordon stelter lclgcnp@yahoo.com
Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:57:20 -0800 (PST)


Yes. Bear grease. Mutton fat. Tallow. All very acidic
and set up an electrochemical reaction on nickelplated
bronze springs/centerpins/etc..
 Not good. Big mess.
     Thump
--- Phil Frankenberg <rinkyd@pacbell.net> wrote:
> I was taught that mutton fat was the reason for
> verdigris in steinway action
> centers. Can someone confirm or deny this?
> Thanks
> 
> Phil Frankenberg
> Chico Ca.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Upright Wippen Rebuilding Questions
> 
> 
> > Thanks for the input Kerry. A couple comments.
> >
> > Regarding hide or Titebond. I know this has been
> gone over a billion
> times, but on this action several jack flanges had
> been repaired with yellow
> wood glue. The original hide glue came off
> effortlessly with a little water
> action - wippens cleaned up perfectly. The wippens
> that had yellow glue
> applied (of course I don't know exactly what it was)
> did soften, but
> required a fair bit of scraping to thoroughly clean
> it. I just delight in
> how easy hide glue is removed.
> >
> > Mutton fat! Yikes! Where on earth would I find
> that? And is that something
> that will not affect the action cloth on the damper
> lever, and is that
> something that can be expected to last for many
> decades?
> >
> > Terry Farrell
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kerry Cooper" <brispiano@optushome.com.au>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: Upright Wippen Rebuilding Questions
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I will be installing new jacks and attached
> flanges. Is it best to
> simply
> > > apply hide glue, stick together and let dry? Or
> are their any
> significant
> > > secrets to the process?
> > >
> > > You can use hide glue or Tite-bond.
> > >
> > > > I will be replacing heel/capstan action cloth.
> Is hide glue applied
> over
> > > the entire cloth/wood surface? Or is it just
> applied at the forward and
> back
> > > ends of the action cloth so that there is no
> glue between the cloth and
> > > wooden wippen heel?
> > >
> > > Glue is applied only to forward and back ends
> only. This stops any
> future
> > > noise that might arise due to glue soaking into
> the Box/action cloth.
> > >
> > > > The spoons are tarnished a bit. I would rather
> not replace if I can
> make
> > > like new easily. I can simply give them a second
> or two on the buffing
> wheel
> > > and they will be shiny as ever - but what about
> the surface metal left -
> > > will it corrode faster than a new spoon? Can I
> coat the buffed spoon
> with
> > > Emrlon (or something like that - thought I had
> seen it in Schaff catalog
> for
> > > coating capstans - couldn't find it again) or
> something else?
> > >
> > > Buff spoons, and light coat of mutton fat. Just
> a smear to protect from
> air.
> > >
> > > Kerry
> > >
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