Upright Wippen Rebuilding Questions

[Farrell]

Why? Well, such as now, because I am rebuilding the wippens. If I am rebuilding an action, ALL flanges are replaced. Anything less would be less than a proper rebuild, IMHO. My question would then be, if one is rebuilding upright wippens, why wouldn't you want to remove the jack flange?

Terry Farrell
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Upright Wippen Rebuilding Questions


> Yes, Terry,
>      Hide glue is easy to remove. But on jack flanges
> it is notorious for becoming weak with humidity
> swings. Why would anyone WANT to remove a jack flange,
> UNLESS said looseness was the reason, anyawy? I
> suggest Titebond here (waterproof!).
>      T
> 
> --- Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for the input Kerry. A couple comments.
> > 
> > Regarding hide or Titebond. I know this has been
> > gone over a billion times, but on this action
> > several jack flanges had been repaired with yellow
> > wood glue. The original hide glue came off
> > effortlessly with a little water action - wippens
> > cleaned up perfectly. The wippens that had yellow
> > glue applied (of course I don't know exactly what it
> > was) did soften, but required a fair bit of scraping
> > to thoroughly clean it. I just delight in how easy
> > hide glue is removed.
> > 
> > Mutton fat! Yikes! Where on earth would I find that?
> > And is that something that will not affect the
> > action cloth on the damper lever, and is that
> > something that can be expected to last for many
> > decades?
> > 
> > Terry Farrell
> >   
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kerry Cooper" <brispiano@optushome.com.au>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: Upright Wippen Rebuilding Questions
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > I will be installing new jacks and attached
> > flanges. Is it best to simply
> > > apply hide glue, stick together and let dry? Or
> > are their any significant
> > > secrets to the process?
> > > 
> > > You can use hide glue or Tite-bond.
> > > 
> > > > I will be replacing heel/capstan action cloth.
> > Is hide glue applied over
> > > the entire cloth/wood surface? Or is it just
> > applied at the forward and back
> > > ends of the action cloth so that there is no glue
> > between the cloth and
> > > wooden wippen heel?
> > > 
> > > Glue is applied only to forward and back ends
> > only. This stops any future
> > > noise that might arise due to glue soaking into
> > the Box/action cloth.
> > > 
> > > > The spoons are tarnished a bit. I would rather
> > not replace if I can make
> > > like new easily. I can simply give them a second
> > or two on the buffing wheel
> > > and they will be shiny as ever - but what about
> > the surface metal left -
> > > will it corrode faster than a new spoon? Can I
> > coat the buffed spoon with
> > > Emrlon (or something like that - thought I had
> > seen it in Schaff catalog for
> > > coating capstans - couldn't find it again) or
> > something else?
> > > 
> > > Buff spoons, and light coat of mutton fat. Just a
> > smear to protect from air.
> > > 
> > > Kerry
> > > 
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