Upright Wippen Rebuilding Questions: Felt glue and spoon lube.

[gordon stelter]

Prolube for the spoons is my recommendation.
    T

--- Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> I did the wippen heel action cloth replacement
> today. A little dab of hot hide glue at each end of
> the rectangular area, apply cloth, hold for about
> one minute while applying glue to next wippen, set
> down. Turned out great. Very easy. That hot hide
> glue grabs and sets FAST!
> 
> To the best of my knowledge, Protek makes three
> products: CPL for center pins, damper guide rail
> bushings, underlevers, key pins and capstans;
> PROlube for the keybed, keyframe, keypins and grand
> damper wires; and Multi-Purpose Lubricant - a
> grease-type lubricant - for wood-to-wood,
> wood-to-metal and metal-to-metal applications.
> 
> Which of these are you referring to - or is there
> another Protek product?
> 
> Terry Farrell
>   
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Upright Wippen Rebuilding Questions:
> Felt glue and spoon lube.
> 
> 
> > Kerry,
> >      Unless you are a fanatical stickler for
> > historicity, I recommend that you use a very thick
> 
> > PVC-E type glue for your wippen cloths, such as
> can be
> > readily bought at fabric stores as "Aileen's Twice
> as
> > Tacky", etc.. They are the very easiest to use for
> all
> > types of felt and cloth, almost paste in
> consistency,
> > quick grip, dry clear and are easily removed with
> a
> > damp rag in the future, if desired.
> >      I also recommend the thicker Protek paste (
> such
> > as is recommended for key pins )for the spoons.
> > Shouldn't corrode anything, very slippery. 
> >    Thump
> > 
> > --- Kerry Cooper <brispiano@optushome.com.au>
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > I will be installing new jacks and attached
> > > flanges. Is it best to simply
> > > apply hide glue, stick together and let dry? Or
> are
> > > their any significant
> > > secrets to the process?
> > > 
> > > You can use hide glue or Tite-bond.
> > > 
> > > > I will be replacing heel/capstan action cloth.
> Is
> > > hide glue applied over
> > > the entire cloth/wood surface? Or is it just
> applied
> > > at the forward and back
> > > ends of the action cloth so that there is no
> glue
> > > between the cloth and
> > > wooden wippen heel?
> > > 
> > > Glue is applied only to forward and back ends
> only.
> > > This stops any future
> > > noise that might arise due to glue soaking into
> the
> > > Box/action cloth.
> > > 
> > > > The spoons are tarnished a bit. I would rather
> not
> > > replace if I can make
> > > like new easily. I can simply give them a second
> or
> > > two on the buffing wheel
> > > and they will be shiny as ever - but what about
> the
> > > surface metal left -
> > > will it corrode faster than a new spoon? Can I
> coat
> > > the buffed spoon with
> > > Emrlon (or something like that - thought I had
> seen
> > > it in Schaff catalog for
> > > coating capstans - couldn't find it again) or
> > > something else?
> > > 
> > > Buff spoons, and light coat of mutton fat. Just
> a
> > > smear to protect from air.
> > > 
> > > Kerry
> > > 
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