This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi Ron. I ran across the following - don't know the source: Air Drying:=20 At MC lower than the fiber saturation point (usually 35%), moisture = change takes place by diffusion within the wood. The standard diffusion = equation may be written as=20 t =3D L=B2 / D=20 where=20 D =3D 1x10-6 cm=B2/s transverse and radial, 1x10-5 cm=B2/s lengthwise,=20 L is the length along the direction of diffusion.=20 t is the time to 1/e of the moisture change, that is to 63% of the = equilibrium change.=20 So, if you have a piece of seasoned wood 2 cm thick that is at the 15% = MC of typical outdoors storage here, and you want to estimate how fast = it will come to equilibrium in your workshop at 30% RH (7% MC) if = exposed to air both sides, L =3D 1 cm and the diffusion equation gives t = =3D 1x106 s, 11 days. The equilibrium MC change required is 8%, so in 11 = days you can expect 63% of 8% =3D 5% lower MC, that is 10% total MC. = That leaves 3% to go, and you can expect 63% of that 3% to take place = over the next 11 days, to 8% MC. So, 3 weeks should be enough time for 2 = cm thick wood. If your wood is 4 cm thick, it will take 3 months, 6 cm = thick, 7 months. According to the literature, most seasoned temperate = woods change moisture at a rate within =B120% of this.=20 According to this, I should be able to dry my 15 mm thick spruce within = a month from 40% MC down to 8% MC. We'll see what happens. Keep in mind, = this wood is not green (about 140% MC) - it is about 40% to 45% MC - so = I'm not drying from a green condition. I hope it will dry in a few = weeks, as I need to get cranking on these boards ASAP! I sealed the ends with a water-based polyurethane I had lying around. = We'll see how that works. I would love to see pictures of your hot box - let me know when it is on = your web site. I have pictures of cutting properly quarter sawn panel pieces from = poorly quarter sawn boards and stacking and drying spruce for my first = soundboard panel and ribs. I've got six relatively low resolution shots = if you are interested.=20 You've got some good suggestions. I'll keep an eye on the edges of my = boards - interesting, your comments about compression set in this area. Wow, a lot of new experiences today! Tomorrow, tuning spinets. :-( Terry Farrell =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Ron Overs" <sec@overspianos.com.au> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Wood Drying >Terry, > >Your most immediate danger is too rapid drying through the end grain. = THe >dimensioinal change from differential drying through the end can create >checking that will make large sections of wood unusable. Don't waste a >second getting some form of moisture-impervious sealant into the end of >every piece. Melted parafin wax works best, IMHO. Or, if you have any wood glue (out of date Titebond or rubbish PVA)=20 lying about, that works very well also. When sourcing local logs, we=20 specify that the log is end-sealed as soon as it is cut. Your idea of breaking the log down into 1/2" boards is a good one.=20 Such boards will be ready to use in one year with just air drying=20 (ie. for the panel, rib stock will take at least two years, unless=20 you plan to make laminated ribs out of the 1/2" boards). When we=20 break down a log for sound board material, after the large boards (2"=20 thick) have been cut out, we break down all the small triangular=20 flitchs into 1/2" wide boards, so as to obtain the maximum of useable=20 spruce from the log (you will need a resaw with a tilting table for=20 this purpose). The danger with drying is moisture gradients.=20 Therefore, the thinner cut boards will tend to have less of a=20 gradient problem, but they will be more prone to warpage. As soon as=20 you have cut your boards, they should be stacked with spacing sticks=20 (of say 25 mm by 25 mm section) between each layer of boards, spaced=20 at about 300 mm (1') for boards 1" or thicker. I would recommend that=20 the spacing sticks be set somewhat closer together for 1/2" boards to=20 reduce warpage. The entire stack should be covered with some kind of=20 roofing material and weighted on top (house bricks will do) to ensure=20 that the upper boards in the stack are held down to prevent them from=20 warping. Don't make the stack too high or the overall weight will=20 cause the lower boards to sustain crush damage adjacent to the spacer=20 sticks. I'll photograph the drying stack I have at the house and send you a=20 jpeg. Looking at your location Terry (27 degress N, - I notice that=20 you have another Sydney a few miles east), I would recommend that you=20 commence the drying process during the winter months, since the=20 summer heat will be very risky for freshly sawn boards. It is the=20 initial drying phase during which degrade from moisture gradients is=20 more likely to occur. Furthermore, quarter cut boards will tend to=20 lose moisture faster through the edge of the board compared to the=20 quartered face. This will occur with a quarter cut board since the=20 medullary rays will be perpendicular to the edge and parallel to the=20 board face. We seal the edges of quarter cut boards as soon as they=20 come off the saw. This will greatly reduce the risk of stress damage=20 at the edge of a quarter cut board during the drying process. I have=20 noticed a tendency for belly wood to be more prone to compression set=20 damage adjacent to the board joints. While there may be a multitude=20 of reasons why this might be so, I have long suspected that the=20 tendency for quarter cut boards to lose moisture faster through the=20 edge, particularly during the initial drying phase, to be a factor=20 here. By the way folks, our new sound board conditioning box is coming=20 along nicely (the new box is big enough to accommodate a B=F6sendorfer=20 Imperial board). If anyone is interested I'll be taking a photo of=20 the assembly prior to fixing the last side of the box, so that you=20 can view the layout of the air ducting. I'll put in on the web site=20 and let you know when it is up. Best, Ron O. --=20 _______________________ OVERS PIANOS - SYDNEY Grand Piano Manufacturers Web: http://overspianos.com.au mailto:info@overspianos.com.au _______________________ ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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