Tuning pin tightners

[Kerry Cooper]

After being applied to a plank, what is the condition of the wood. Is it
going to be able to be repinned or plugged at a latter stage, or is this
application going to destroy the wrest plank so that it has to be replaced.

The only time I would consider using any of these applications is when the
piano is not worth doing anything to it, and the customer has been given the
complete picture.

Kerry Cooper
Australia
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Moody" <remoody@midstatesd.net>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 4:19 PM
Subject: Tuning pin tightners


>
>
> >
> > What you need to do is order a bottle of "Garfields Pinblock
> Destroyer" or
> > "Pin-Loose" ....
> >
> > The Phantom Haranger
> > Salem, MO
>
> "Hold on thar,  pilgrim"   You won't disparage my favorite pin
> block restorer without getting feedback from this public advocate
> at least.  The parroting of detrimental effects of tuning pin
> tightner shows  an ignorance of what is really happening when one
> applies GARFIELDS, or unwillingness to hear about decades of
> satisfactory results from professional use of Garfields.
>     Part of the problem is there are a few brands of "TP
> tightners" that don't work, or don't work nearly as well as
> GARFIELDS.  Whether they are "pinblock destroyers" or not I can't
> truthfully say.   I have never seen a pin block "destroyed" by
> anything but oil, or booze, (grand pianos in bars) but even those
> I have gotten favorable results from GARFIELDS.
>     Now in anticipation of the most recent spate of favorite "pin
> block doping" solutions, I still stand by Garfields over the use
> of CA.   Don't get me wrong, I am not disparaging CA, I like it
> actually for the one or two or three or up to a dozen loose pins.
> That you don't have to tip the upright is another advantage. But
> for over all looseness or sections of looseness nothing compares
> to GARFIELDS except LUDENS, which because it costs twice as much I
> only use when GARFIELDS fails and that has only been once and only
> on two pins and that was a bar piano with a truly boozed block.
>     Even if all others ("dopes") have failed you can still use
> GARFIELDS!!.  I just did this on a studio piano  in a school that
> I have tuned for 3 years.  The T pins showed a goop around them
> and dripping down to the upper bearing.  Well this spring the pins
> were too loose, so the poor Meisner got tipped over and doused
> with GARFIELDS.  Now this is the worst case I have ever treated
> so if GARFIELDS failed  on this one I will humbly submit such a
> report.  But only 3  days after applying, it was up and tuned.
> That was three weeks ago, I will see it next week and report the
> results and offer digital photos.  The pin block truly looks like
> a mess.    ==-rm
>
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