smooth delicate and creamy

[Isaac sur Noos]

It all depends of the rendering and the feedback in the tuning hammer.

Also of how much pitch change is due.

I hate to bang, but I am obliged sometime and on some pianos.
But the nice tone is better build with a moderate and even soft
playing, assuming the tone is firm enough.

The string segment near tuning pin is more tense so the hard banging
eventually will push the string higher, was said it is less noticed if
a string goes high that if it goes low.







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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la
> part de David Love
> Envoye : dimanche 9 novembre 2003 03:54
> A : Pianotech
> Objet : Re: smooth delicate and creamy
>
>
> I think that with respect to stability (not to mention wear
> and tear on
> various body parts) there is actually a point of
> diminishing returns with
> how hard you "bang" it during tuning.  You need to play
> (note I didn't say
> hit or bang) the note hard enough to move things through
> the friction
> points and to a point of equilibrium, but I think that you
> can hit is so
> hard that extreme extrusion can actually can put the segments out of
> equilibrium.  Nothing scientific here, just my experience.
> I try to never
> play the note so hard or in such a way that the tone it produces is
> unmusical.  Firm yes, but if you keep it musical, you won't
> overdo it.
>
> David Love
> davidlovepianos@earthlink.net
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Don <pianotuna@accesscomm.ca>
> > To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Date: 11/8/2003 6:36:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: smooth delicate and creamy
> >
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > I used to be a *bang it harder person*. Then one day on a
> brand new
> Baldwin
> > upright a hammer came flying out at me. Is that hard
> enough? It *is*
> > possible to get great stability without *bashing* til the
> (as you call
> them
> > in England) rollers are flat. And yes I tune for *hard*
> players. One
> client
> > in particular can choose to break a key, a string, or a
> hammer shank.
> Don't
> > like his playing much--but he does have "control".
> >
> > At 08:57 PM 11/8/2003 -0000, you wrote:
> > >Hello Don Rose
> > >I wonder if I might take you up on on item?
> > >You wrote:
> >
> > >"Then next mistake may be that you are pounding too hard
> on the notes.
> Learn
> > >to tune softly."
> > >
> > >With this I completely and utterly dis-agree!
> > >Why?
> > >The next person who plays harder than you tuned it will
> knock it out of
> > >tune. Who's to know "he" hasn't got a lumberjack for a
> friend? One of our
> > >reps is the hardest player I've ever heard - he breaks
> strings on Yams -
> > >he's like a whole orchestra in the Pit (which is what
> he's supposed to
> be!)
> > >yet only because I tune harder than he plays is the
> piano still in tune
> > >after a week of such treatment!
> > >Now... shoot me down in flames if you like but (as
> someone else said) I
> am
> > >what I am and he is what he is. And my tuning doesn't
> wander in the
> middle
> > >of an LPO recording session either - so that's something
> in my favour!
> > >BTW IU use a "T" hammer for grands.
> > >Regards ;-)
> > >Michael G (UK) must get my five-year-old into bed now in
> Sussex-by-the-Sea
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
> >
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