In-Home Vertical Damper Replacement

Isaac sur Noos oleg-i@noos.fr
Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:14:04 +0100


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Fish glue or any glue that can be moistened later;

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  -----Message d'origine-----
  De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la
part de Mark Wisner
  Envoye : mercredi 19 novembre 2003 21:23
  A : Pianotech
  Objet : Re: In-Home Vertical Damper Replacement


  Yep.  Aliphatic (resin) glue is Titebond or yellow carpenters glue.  I'll
let someone else answer your question about cold hide glue as I have very
little experience with it.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Farrell
  Sent: Nov 19, 2003 12:05 PM
  To: Pianotech
  Subject: Re: In-Home Vertical Damper Replacement


  Thanks for the responses - a few comments questions belwo:

  Terry Farrell

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Mark Wisner" <mwisner@earthlink.net>


  > I'd remove the damper felts in the shop then glue on the new felt with
the action installed using the damper springs as clamps.  A small squeeze
bottle of aliphatic glue should keep things tidy.

  Yup, felt off in shop, in in home using springs as clamps and strings for
alignment.

  I know I should know these technical terms, but I have all sorts of glues
in my shop, but which one is aliphatic glue? Tightbond-type stuff?

  Would there be any disadvantage to using cold hide glue?


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Conrad Hoffsommer" <hoffsoco@martin.luther.edu>
  >
  > If the action is in your shop _NOW_,    why are you going to do the
dampers
  > in the home???

  See above - I thought that was the only way to do it! Especially in this
case because the dampers are currently regulated very nicely - if I glue in
the piano, I shouldn't have to even touch the damper regulation.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Ron Koval" <drwoodwind@hotmail.com>

  > Hi Terry,
  >
  > I don't know about the best, but this might help you out.  First, did
you
  > already get the pr-cut dampers?  Wasn't that you asking about that a few
  > weeks ago?

  Yup, got 'em. Thanks Phil Bondi!

  > First, leave the hot glue in the shop, where it belongs.

  Yup, don't have to twist my arm for that one!

  > Get some Weldbond
  > white glue (I think it's PVA) in a small enough bottle to control, or
some
  > better method if you are sloppy.

  Same question. Is that Tightbond type stuff? Is there something about
"Weldbond" that  makes it better than Tightbond or cold hide glue? I keep
asking about cold hide glue because this lady will never die (she's German
and is a "gooood strrrong vooman"), her piano will still look like new 40
years from now, and, if I am still alive, I just know I will be replacing
dampers again on this piano in 40 years!

  > It doesn't take much to keep a felt on.
  > (less is better) You will be using the strings to provide the clamping
and
  > alignment, so bend your wires before you begin, if needed.  Put a little
  > glue on the felt, then use a good long hemostat to slide the damper felt
  > down the string to the waiting damper block that you have pulled back
from
  > the string.  Align, release, go to the next.

  Yes, that is how I have done it in the shop.

  > Call for your shoulder/neck
  > massage before you go on the call, it's not the most comfortable job.

  Ahhh, excellent advice!

  >  (but
  > then, is tuning?)  It sets up pretty quickly, so you can go ahead and
start
  > with the rest of your work when you finish.
  >
  > Ron Koval
  > Chicagoland

Mark Wisner
National Service Manager
Pearl River Piano Group America
800 435 5086 ext 111

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