Andre, my friend, you're a fount of knowledge and I thank you for this information which I shall study. Currently my six year old is packing his suitcase... we're going on holiday for a week so I shall not be on this site again until November 3rd. :-). Regards Michael G (somewhere in the UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Corina Gamble" <corina@gambles.fsnet.co.uk> To: "Michael Gamble" <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 12:32 AM Subject: Fw: Wurzen felt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <antares@euronet.nl> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 11:16 PM > Subject: Wurzen felt > > > > On vrijdag, okt 24, 2003, at 11:30 Europe/Amsterdam, Michael Gamble > wrote: > > > Andre - Could you dig out some info on the piano make "Steingraeber" I > > have > > never heard of it in the UK and my puny knowledge needs up-grading. > > They > > seem to be another "Fazioli", Right? Please post specs and data if you > > can. > > Regards > > Michael G (UK) > > > OK, > Steingraeber is not a Fazioli. > They have been in the field much longer and so they got a 'background'. > It is the same with buildings, old and new : A bunch of new buildings > have no personality, yet, an older bunch of buildings we call a town. > An old town has, usually, personality, or not. > Compare Steingraeber with Oxford, and you know exactly what I mean. > Steingraeber is not Ferrari, Mercedes or BMW (yet). Compare > Steingraeber with Rover, Lancia, and Jaguar, and you probably > understand what I am saying. > > For more specific info, go to : > > http://www.steingraeber.de/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Gamble" <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:17 AM > > Subject: Fw: Fw: Steingraeber by candle light....../felt > > > > > > Thanks Andre for your enlightenment. For some odd reason I know the > > name > > "Wieckert" although the early 1900s was a bit before my time.:-) > > From your posts to Pianotech I assume that your age is somewhere > between 28 and 32 (?) > > > What about > > "Royal George" then :-) > > Royal george we found for some time on Yamaha's. > > > What felts do Fazioli > > Fazioli has made use of Abel, so far. > > > > and Steinway use I wonder? > > Steinway has always used the very best felt available and today they, > of course, use Wurzen. > You see Michael, this is actually very interesting for all of us : > In the old days, almost everybody used Weickert/Wurzen. > Then the Commies decided to enlarge their territory and the East of > Germany fell into their greedy red hands. > That marks the end of the Wurzen era and the beginning of decades of > lousy hammer felt. > The older European technicians may clearly remember the difference : > the going down in quality of the former majestic instrument builders > and the rise of those awful East European and Russian crappola pianos > like Zimmerman, Tschaika, Czerny, the rape of a name like Rhönisch and > Perzina, the appearance of cheap Petrofs, Röslers and Försters with > really really awful hammers (felt). > > And then........ > After the fall of the Berlin wall and the reunification of the two > Germany's, the coming back of Wurzen felt, because the former owners > were able to retrieve their former possessions. > > I was probably among the first technicians here to become aware of the > new felt on the market (by sheer coincidence) and recognize the instant > improvement in quality. > No wonder I wrote so many e-mails about it, and after all it does not > surprise me that still only a limited amount of people know about the > finest of the finest. > I consider myself as a typical example of an ordinary technician with a > reasonable amount of talent and with actually a lower grade piano > education. I have spent many years of my 'profession' milling around > like a Don Quichotte without really having any practical knowledge. It > happens to most of us because our awareness and consciousness of real > quality and substantial improvements usually comes with age and > experience, or because we were blessed and privileged with good Karma > and kind benefactors. > Knowledge is the key to understanding and then the process of > understanding is not like an instant coffee... > If I had known that etc etc....... > > > It > > doesn't matter what the subject is, there's always a gap in one's > > knowledge:-! > > Thanks! You got it! > > > > Regards > > Michael G (UK) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <antares@euronet.nl> > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:53 PM > > Subject: Re: Fw: Steingraeber by candle light...... > > > > > > > > On donderdag, okt 23, 2003, at 20:44 Europe/Amsterdam, Michael Gamble > > wrote: > > > >> Please Ande Oorebeek, What is WURZEN? It sounds like some Harry Potter > >> solution. ;-) > >> Regards > >> Michael G (UK) > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: <antares@euronet.nl> > >> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 4:27 PM > >> Subject: Re: Steingraeber by candle light...... > > > > > > Wurzen, Michael, is the name of a place in the East of germany. > > It is the place where the finest hammer felt in the world is made > > today. > > Wurzen felt is called after the name of the place. > > > > It used to be called Weickert felt around the 1900 's and all the great > > piano makers used it then. > > today, STW uses it, along with Bösendorfer, Bechstein, Yamaha handmade, > > Steingraeber, and many others. > > > > It is just a matter of taste and the musical ability to distinguish the > > difference in quality between felt and felt. > > > > In the past I have written many words about this. > > The archives will tell you more. > > > > André Oorebeek > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > >
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