Fw: Wurzen felt

Michael Gamble michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk
Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:50:01 +0100


Andre, my friend, you're a fount of knowledge and I thank you for this
information which I shall study. Currently my six year old is packing his
suitcase... we're going on holiday for a week so I shall not be on this site
again until November 3rd. :-).
Regards
Michael G (somewhere in the UK)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Corina Gamble" <corina@gambles.fsnet.co.uk>
To: "Michael Gamble" <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 12:32 AM
Subject: Fw: Wurzen felt


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <antares@euronet.nl>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 11:16 PM
> Subject: Wurzen felt
>
>
>
> On vrijdag, okt 24, 2003, at 11:30 Europe/Amsterdam, Michael Gamble
> wrote:
>
> > Andre - Could you dig out some info on the piano make "Steingraeber" I
> > have
> > never heard of it in the UK and my puny knowledge needs up-grading.
> > They
> > seem to be another "Fazioli", Right? Please post specs and data if you
> > can.
> > Regards
> > Michael G (UK)
>
>
> OK,
> Steingraeber is not a Fazioli.
> They have been in the field much longer and so they got a 'background'.
> It is the same with buildings, old and new : A bunch of new buildings
> have no personality, yet, an older bunch of buildings we call a town.
> An old town has, usually, personality, or not.
> Compare Steingraeber with Oxford, and you know exactly what I mean.
> Steingraeber is not Ferrari, Mercedes or BMW (yet). Compare
> Steingraeber with Rover, Lancia, and Jaguar, and you probably
> understand what I am saying.
>
> For more specific info, go to :
>
> http://www.steingraeber.de/
>
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Gamble" <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:17 AM
> > Subject: Fw: Fw: Steingraeber by candle light....../felt
> >
> >
> > Thanks Andre for your enlightenment. For some odd reason I know the
> > name
> > "Wieckert" although the early 1900s was a bit before my time.:-)
>
>  From your posts to Pianotech I assume that your age is somewhere
> between 28 and 32 (?)
>
> > What about
> > "Royal George" then :-)
>
> Royal george we found for some time on Yamaha's.
>
> > What felts do Fazioli
>
> Fazioli has made use of Abel, so far.
>
>
> > and Steinway use I wonder?
>
> Steinway has always used the very best felt available and today they,
> of course, use Wurzen.
> You see Michael, this is actually very interesting for all of us :
> In the old days, almost everybody used Weickert/Wurzen.
> Then the Commies decided to enlarge their territory and the East of
> Germany fell into their greedy red hands.
> That marks the end of the Wurzen era and the beginning of decades of
> lousy hammer felt.
> The older European technicians may clearly remember the difference :
> the going down in quality of the former majestic instrument builders
> and the rise of those awful East European and Russian crappola pianos
> like Zimmerman, Tschaika, Czerny, the rape of a name like Rhönisch and
> Perzina, the appearance of cheap Petrofs, Röslers and Försters with
> really really awful hammers (felt).
>
> And then........
> After the fall of the Berlin wall and the reunification of the two
> Germany's, the coming back of Wurzen felt, because the former owners
> were able to retrieve their former possessions.
>
> I was probably among the first technicians here to become aware of the
> new felt on the market (by sheer coincidence) and recognize the instant
> improvement in quality.
> No wonder I wrote so many e-mails about it, and after all it does not
> surprise me that still only a limited amount of people know about the
> finest of the finest.
> I consider myself as a typical example of an ordinary technician with a
> reasonable amount of talent and with actually a lower grade piano
> education. I have spent many years of my 'profession' milling around
> like a Don Quichotte without really having any practical knowledge. It
> happens to most of us because our awareness and consciousness of real
> quality and substantial improvements usually comes with age and
> experience, or because we were blessed and privileged with good Karma
> and kind benefactors.
> Knowledge is the key to understanding and then the process of
> understanding is not like an instant coffee...
> If I had known that etc etc.......
>
> > It
> > doesn't matter what the subject is, there's always a gap in one's
> > knowledge:-!
>
> Thanks! You got it!
>
>
> > Regards
> > Michael G (UK)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <antares@euronet.nl>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Steingraeber by candle light......
> >
> >
> >
> > On donderdag, okt 23, 2003, at 20:44 Europe/Amsterdam, Michael Gamble
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Please Ande Oorebeek, What is WURZEN? It sounds like some Harry Potter
> >> solution. ;-)
> >> Regards
> >> Michael G (UK)
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <antares@euronet.nl>
> >> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 4:27 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Steingraeber by candle light......
> >
> >
> > Wurzen, Michael, is the name of a place in the East of germany.
> > It is the place where the finest hammer felt in the world is made
> > today.
> > Wurzen felt is called after the name of the place.
> >
> > It used to be called Weickert felt around the 1900 's and all the great
> > piano makers used it then.
> > today, STW uses it, along with Bösendorfer, Bechstein, Yamaha handmade,
> > Steingraeber, and many others.
> >
> > It is just a matter of taste and the musical ability to distinguish the
> > difference in quality between felt and felt.
> >
> > In the past I have written many words about this.
> > The archives will tell you more.
> >
> > André Oorebeek
> >
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