This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I suspect much of these marketing considerations and how the piano = buying public perceives them is directly related to the = out-of-sight-out-of-mind phenomena. Folks can't see the wonderful ABS = action components - the salesperson can simply report a great = performing, technologically advanced action - cool, that's easy to = swallow. But the soundboard panel can be seen by the shoppers - even = though they can't see that it is laminated (but they can SEE the panel - = it is REAL), they will hear it from "the other" brand's salesperson = ("are you aware that brand "K" sneaks those cheap laminated panels into = their pianos - you know, like the ones used in 1970s Winter spinets - = our pianos have a solid spruce soundboard like the concert grand pianos = preferred by all the concert artists around the world & bla, bla, = bla...").=20 I suspect that any mass-producer of pianos will have an uphill battle = successfully marketing a laminated soundboard. However, the small = quantity manufacturer (or remanufacturer) I suspect can develop a niche = that those few open & performance-minded piano buyers will want to = explore. I don't know what small quantity might be - one to ten pianos = per year, definitely yes - 200,000 per year, definitely no. I do know that the few remanufacturing jobs I have secured are based = solely on personal trust - even though I have explained thoroughly the = redesign work these pianos will be getting, I am well aware that the = clients basically have zero clue as to what I am talking about. I am not = using laminated panels at this point, but I have no doubt that with = these clients use of a laminated panel would be readily accepted. Their = remanufacturing decisions are based 100% on their trust in me and zero = on any piano-design-related technical matter. Terry Farrell ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Donald Mannino=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:17 PM Subject: Re: Laminated Soundboard Panels True, but that should not be a sufficient reason alone not to use an = alternative method if it proves to be superior. If the argument you put = against laminated panels was to be adopted by Kawai, they would never = have introduced their ABS actions. I believe that the use ABS for action = parts is an excellent idea, which is superior to using wood, and that = eventually this will be fully accepted by the market. Let's not condemn = a technology out of hand without giving it proper scrutiny. If the = market is biased against a good idea, I believe we have a responsibility = as professionals in our industry to educate the sometimes idiotic-market = we serve. Ron, My message was not in the least amount meant to be an argument against = laminated boards. I am very much in favor of well designed laminated = boards, and I have seen and heard them done very well in a variety of = piano sizes, including large grand pianos. I was simply stating my = observations that they have generally not done well in the marketplace = because of the stigma. You are correct, fighting the battle to gain = market acceptance for laminated soundboards is very similar to the one = fought with the ABS parts. Don Mannino ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/8c/38/e1/6e/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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