Mark, If the tuning pins hold in the pinblock when you tune then that probably isn't the cause of the tuning instability. Look more at the environmental changes in the facility. It may take a while to educate the facility's manager that turning off the heat and cranking it up to warm the place as fast as possible has a detrimental effect on the tuning. With the weather changes we've been having around here, the finest tuning from several months ago isn't worth much now, no matter who did it if the micro-climate hasn't been maintained. So in short, be sure to diagnose that you have a pinblock problem before applying anything. As to the "thumping" unison, look for interference from the bass-most treble damper, separated bridge cap, or something else, like a mute, stuck in the strings. Also be sure that they're original and not inadequate replacements. The best watch word is to be sure to diagnose the problem before you start fixing it. If you don't know the cause of the issue, exploratory surgery can be really risky. Allan L. Gilreath, RPT Allan Gilreath & Associates, Inc. 515 Oothcalooga St., Suite I Calhoun, GA 30701 agilreath@mindspring.com Once you figure out the right questions to ask, the asnwers are pretty simple. -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Mark Kinsler Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:37 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Wuritzer console A while ago I had a look at a Wurlizer console piano that has suffered through many years in an auditorium. It is so sadly out of tune that I figured I could do no harm in trying out my tuning hammer on it. It seemed to me that the tuning pins turned rather easily. The condition seemed to exist everywhere on the pinblock, so I suspect that the pinblock is not cracked. I was later told that this particular instrument goes out of tune very quickly and that it had been professionally tuned some months earlier. But from what I've read on this list, I rather doubt that a professional tuner would not have attended to loose tuning pins in some way. Nor would s/he have left one note (the first bass note left of the break, two wound strings) to thump the way it does. It sounds like the strings of that note are touching something, but the hammer lets off normally and the damper lifts okay and I can't see anything stuck down there. So I have two questions: 1) Would I wreck this instrument for all eternity if I tried some of that piano-tuning-pin elixir on the pinblock? It's supposed to be great, according to the catalog; your tuning pin troubles will fly away like the bluebird on the wing. 2) What the heck might be blocking that pair of bass strings on this piano? I've had the various panels off and have stuck my head inside the instrument along with a flashlight, and there don't seem to be any dropped crayons or pizza boxes therein. M Kinsler who knows more than enough to be dangerous to both piano and mankind _________________________________________________________________ Let the advanced features & services of MSN Internet Software maximize your online time. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200363ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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