This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Once upon a time I thought that I was a great tuner , then destiny, or = luck brought me to Jim Coleman Sr. With his patients , big ears , and = ETD, I'm alot better.=20 I like to tune at least a couple a week by ear , as I check it with Dr. = Sanderson . That way I can keep the ear up. PS I think back to times when I did not use a box and a new customer = saying that the last guy used a machine and I won't have him back. I use = mine anyway. God bless Dan over and out....----- Original Messa......ge -----=20 From: antares=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:05 PM Subject: get yourself a Cadillac and enjoy the ride On 10-feb-04, at 22:52, Michael Gamble wrote: Hello all Stephane said: "What I found most interesting in Verituner is that = it lets YOU decide what is a good tuning. If you are not 100% satisfied with the tuning = (style) the device achieved, you can put in your own parameters to make the = tuning match your delicate ear. Interactive keeps a man awake." Michael said: I say: If you rely on an external device your tuning ear will = eventually fall into a state of disuetude and suddenly you won't be able to = tune without a device at all. This is why I only use the CTS-5 to "help" = lay the bearings in just one 8ve. Then I turn it off and finish the job by = ear. I have yet to have a call-back on my tunings. Michael, I beg to differ with you on this issue about ETD's. I know actually many tuners here in Holland, but also abroad, who are = highly experienced aural tuners and who, nevertheless, now tune with an = ETD. In Holland I was among the first members of the then new Dutch Piano = Technicians Association (the VvPN) and I was also among the small group = of these new VvPN members who created the very first tuning test in = Europe where you could test the tuning electronically with the aid of an = ETD (at the time a SAT) and a computer program, just like they have been = done (and do) for a long time in the USA. Let me tell you, it was not an easy task to do a tuning test and walk = away with a high enough score, and I have seen many colleagues who, = after they had proved their professional ability, were very proud that = they had dared to do this risky test.=20 They had shown that they were able to make a very good tuning, and we = all know that there are many colleagues out there who are not capable of = making a tuning at that same level I just described. Many of these 'tested' tuners now use a tuning device, myself = included. I have tuned too many piano's aurally, and I thank the electronic = tuning Deities for my beloved 'box'. You know why? Because my box creates for me a tuning of such high quality that it = will take me at least a Month's training of steady high-trapeze-tuning = to reach the same accuracy. But I would never be able to make money with it, because such a = fabulous concert tuning would take me hours, and afterwards I would be = exhausted, whereas my ETD allows me to do the very same but within one = hour, hello! So my customers are happy because they can count on a very high = quality tuning, and I am very happy because I don't get exhausted, don't = have a lot of tuning stress, and I can, instead, concentrate on making = beautiful and strong unisons. Especially somewhat older tuners, who have paid their tuning dues so = to speak, go into their second tuning wind when they discover the ease = and joy of a good ETD. Because they have already tuned piano's aurally for many years, they = know very well how to tune a piano when the battery of their ETD is low. Some time ago, I came back from a short trip abroad, and I had = forgotten to charge the battery of my box, so the next day I had to tune = this very difficult Steinway belonging to this very difficult customer. To be honest with you, I got chagrined because it was late in the = afternoon and my energy level was down, and I was not looking forward to = having to do it again 'by ear'. However, I of course tuned the thing and after only a few uncertain = minutes I was back full swing and was having fun, trying to do the = puzzle again for the zillionth time. I can tell you something else : Just because my ears have been sharpened by the superior ETD tuning, = my musical hearing wants to duplicate the refined regularity that I have = been hearing for years through the use of my sophisticated ETD. So my = tuning ability has not gone away and has not lessened at all. I feel very good that I can make a real good tuning even after having = used an ETD for years. Again : there are many many excellent aural tuners in the world who, = at a certain moment, just like me, have made a switch from aural to = electronic. I think most of these will testify that they have an easier life now = and that they enjoy making a superb tuning. I am all for learning to tune aurally and then tune aurally for years, = just to become well trained. After that goal has been reached I would say : get yourself a = Cadillac, and enjoy the ride. friendly greetings=20 from Andr=E9 Oorebeek Amsterdam - The Netherlands 0031-20-6237357 0645-492389 0031-75-6226878 www.concertpianoservice.nl www.grandpiano.nl ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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