---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On 10-feb-04, at 22:52, Michael Gamble wrote: > Hello all > Stephane said: "What I found most interesting in Verituner is that it=20= > lets > YOU decide what > is a good tuning. If you are not 100% satisfied with the tuning=20 > (style) the > device achieved, you can put in your own parameters to make the tuning=20= > match > your delicate ear. Interactive keeps a man awake." > Michael said: > I say: If you rely on an external device your tuning ear will=20 > eventually > fall into a state of disuetude and suddenly you won't be able to tune > without a device at all. This is why I only use the CTS-5 to "help"=20 > lay the > bearings in just one 8ve. Then I turn it off and finish the job by=20 > ear. I > have yet to have a call-back on my tunings. > Michael, I beg to differ with you on this issue about ETD's. I know actually many tuners here in Holland, but also abroad, who are=20 highly experienced aural tuners and who, nevertheless, now tune with an=20= ETD. In Holland I was among the first members of the then new Dutch Piano=20 Technicians Association (the VvPN) and I was also among the small group=20= of these new VvPN members who created the very first tuning test in=20 Europe where you could test the tuning electronically with the aid of=20 an ETD (at the time a SAT) and a computer program, just like they have=20= been done (and do) for a long time in the USA. Let me tell you, it was not an easy task to do a tuning test and walk=20 away with a high enough score, and I have seen many colleagues who,=20 after they had proved their professional ability, were very proud that=20= they had dared to do this risky test. They had shown that they were able to make a very good tuning, and we=20 all know that there are many colleagues out there who are not capable=20 of making a tuning at that same level I just described. Many of these 'tested' tuners now use a tuning device, myself included. I have tuned too many piano's aurally, and I thank the electronic=20 tuning Deities for my beloved 'box'. You know why? Because my box creates for me a tuning of such high quality that it=20 will take me at least a Month's training of steady high-trapeze-tuning=20= to reach the same accuracy. But I would never be able to make money with it, because such a=20 fabulous concert tuning would take me hours, and afterwards I would be=20= exhausted, whereas my ETD allows me to do the very same but within one=20= hour, hello! So my customers are happy because they can count on a very high quality=20= tuning, and I am very happy because I don't get exhausted, don't have a=20= lot of tuning stress, and I can, instead, concentrate on making=20 beautiful and strong unisons. Especially somewhat older tuners, who have paid their tuning dues so to=20= speak, go into their second tuning wind when they discover the ease and=20= joy of a good ETD. Because they have already tuned piano's aurally for many years, they=20 know very well how to tune a piano when the battery of their ETD is=20 low. Some time ago, I came back from a short trip abroad, and I had=20 forgotten to charge the battery of my box, so the next day I had to=20 tune this very difficult Steinway belonging to this very difficult=20 customer. To be honest with you, I got chagrined because it was late in the=20 afternoon and my energy level was down, and I was not looking forward=20 to having to do it again 'by ear'. However, I of course tuned the thing and after only a few uncertain=20 minutes I was back full swing and was having fun, trying to do the=20 puzzle again for the zillionth time. I can tell you something else : Just because my ears have been sharpened by the superior ETD tuning, my=20= musical hearing wants to duplicate the refined regularity that I have=20 been hearing for years through the use of my sophisticated ETD. So my=20 tuning ability has not gone away and has not lessened at all. I feel very good that I can make a real good tuning even after having=20 used an ETD for years. Again : there are many many excellent aural tuners in the world who, at=20= a certain moment, just like me, have made a switch from aural to=20 electronic. I think most of these will testify that they have an easier life now=20 and that they enjoy making a superb tuning. I am all for learning to tune aurally and then tune aurally for years,=20= just to become well trained. After that goal has been reached I would say : get yourself a Cadillac,=20= and enjoy the ride. friendly greetings from Andr=E9 Oorebeek Amsterdam - The Netherlands 0031-20-6237357 0645-492389 0031-75-6226878 www.concertpianoservice.nl www.grandpiano.nl ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 4570 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/b1/9a/c6/44/attachment.bin ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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