---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Terry, Just out of curiosity, why would the A above middle C be any more important than the A below? Unless you're comparing it to a tuning fork, of course. :-) Avery At 04:02 PM 7/8/04, you wrote: ><<I will get a call to have a piano tuned and am told its been 5 plus >yaears since last tuning, yet the A below middle C is right on or ne! ar 440. >Julia Gottchall, > Reading, PA>> > >I HOPE you actually meant "A ABOVE middle C", NOT below! > >Terry Peterson > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Clyde Hollinger <cedel@supernet.com> >Reply-To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> >To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> >Subject: Re: If pianos are "swollen" now... then what? >Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:18:20 -0400 > >Bob, > >It was good to see you in Nashville. Of course I agree with you >wholeheartedly, whle at the same time I admit that I am not a very >outspoken salesman of PLS systems. I do let first-time clients that if >the piano sounds bad between tunings, then humidity change is the culprit, >and we can deal with that. If established clients remark about tuning >instability, I also let them know their options. I think I averaged about >one system a month during the spring and early summer this year, which is >probably higher than average for me. > >Regards, >Clyde H. > >Robert J Russell wrote: > >>Hello All, Excellent advice Clyde. You really offer great advice on >>how to deal with our wonderful humidity changes. The only thing I >>would add, is that six month tunings over these high swing periods >>offer a great opportunity to recommend a solution for their >>problems. Piano Life Saver Systems. If your tuning in the fall and >>spring to avoid these swings, the pianos are going to sound terrible >>in June through October and January through April. The biggest >>question that we need to ask our customers is how many months of >>the year do they want their pianos to sound good? >>Great seeing everyone in Nashville, >>Bob Russell, RPT >> >>Clyde Hollinger <cedel@supernet.com> wrote: >> >> Julia, >> >> I do what is called by some "floating the pitch," >although I >>would >> not do this for a concert where the piano really needs to be at >>A-440. >> >> My experience is that in this area humidity generally peaks in >> August and September and hits the lowest usually in February >>and >> March. So we are on the rise at this point of July. When I >>sit >> down to tune a piano, I use my RCT to test where the pitches of >> the As are, from A1 to A6, and sometimes the lowest unwound >> strings also. (If you tune aurally you'll need to use your own >> system.) >> >> What I do next depends on the season and the situation. If >>I've >> been tuning the piano in July at A-440 for years, but suddenly >> this year the whole piano is sharp, this is a humidity >> aberration. If I tune it at A-440 again, it is almost a >>certainty >> that next year it will be flat. So I leave it sharp! . >>Obviously >> I keep good records so I can look back and see what has >>happened >> in the past 10-15 years. >> >> I do not like 6-month tunings that swing between high and low >> humidity seasons. I have a couple customers like that, and >> sometimes I never tune the piano to A-440, leaving it several >> cents high in the summer and about the same amount low in the >> winter. That way I'm putting less wear on the pinblock, and I >> know that somewhere between tunings the piano is on target. >> >> Regards, >> Clyde Hollinger, RPT >> >> Alpha88x@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> If the pianos are "swollen" just now >>>(summertime), >>> due to the humid mountanous atmosphere of this part of >>> Pennsylvania, is it OK to tune above A440? >>> >>> I have been tuning for alittle over a year now. >>>I >>> have found that pianos which the customer tells me havent been >>> tuned for 5 or more years, are very close to A440, yet they >>>are >>> terribly out of tune as far as unisons and horribly flat upper >>> octaves. >>> >>> In other words, I will get a call to have a >>>piano >>> tuned and am told its been 5 plus yaears since last tuning, >>>yet >>> the A below middle C is right on or ne! ar 440. Other pianos I >>>go >>> to, the customer will say it's been 2 years and these are >>> actually a few beats above A440. >>> >>> I never turn them back to A440, I figure they >>>are >>> swelled right now, and if I turn them down to 440 now, then, >>>when >>> the summer is over they will go below 440 when the heat goes >>>on. >>> Last summer, I had my first few tunings and I turned pianos >>>back >>> down to 440 and I was wondering if my fork was off...This year >>>I >>> figured it out. I think I am correct, but I want to be sure on >>>this. >>> >>> This year, (with my whole whopping 16 months >>> expertise) If I go into a situation and its a few beats above >>> 440 I tune it right there. In fact, if the customer doesnt >>>have >>> a dehumidifer or ar conditioning, I even pull the piano up a >>>bit >>> to be alittle above A440. Pianos "should" be s! >harp just now, >>> right? How am I on this? Am I figuring OK on this? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Julia Gottchall, >>> Reading, PA >> ><> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Check out the latest news, polls and tools in the MSN 2004 Election Guide! >http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx > >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/bc/3a/09/d2/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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