This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Avery, I didn't understand that we were talking about importance. I think Terry was just pointing out that it is normally A *above* middle C that vibrates at 440 vps, which is quite clearly what Julia meant, even if it's not what she wrote. I reckon we've all done that at one time or another. Regards, Clyde H. Avery Todd wrote: > Terry, > > Just out of curiosity, why would the A above middle C be any more > important > than the A below? Unless you're comparing it to a tuning fork, of > course. :-) > > Avery > > At 04:02 PM 7/8/04, you wrote: > >> <<I will get a call to have a piano tuned and am told its been 5 plus >> yaears since last tuning, yet the A below middle C is right on or ne! >> ar 440. >> Julia Gottchall, >> Reading, PA>> >> >> I HOPE you actually meant "A ABOVE middle C", NOT below! >> >> Terry Peterson >> >> >> >> >> ----Original Message Follows---- >> From: Clyde Hollinger <cedel@supernet.com> >> Reply-To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> >> To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> >> Subject: Re: If pianos are "swollen" now... then what? >> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:18:20 -0400 >> >> Bob, >> >> It was good to see you in Nashville. Of course I agree with you >> wholeheartedly, whle at the same time I admit that I am not a very >> outspoken salesman of PLS systems. I do let first-time clients that >> if the piano sounds bad between tunings, then humidity change is the >> culprit, and we can deal with that. If established clients remark >> about tuning instability, I also let them know their options. I >> think I averaged about one system a month during the spring and early >> summer this year, which is probably higher than average for me. >> >> Regards, >> Clyde H. >> >> Robert J Russell wrote: >> >> >Hello All, Excellent advice Clyde. You really offer great advice on >> >how to deal with our wonderful humidity changes. The only thing I >> >would add, is that six month tunings over these high swing periods >> >offer a great opportunity to recommend a solution for their >> >problems. Piano Life Saver Systems. If your tuning in the fall and >> >spring to avoid these swings, the pianos are going to sound terrible >> >in June through October and January through April. The biggest >> >question that we need to ask our customers is how many months of >> >the year do they want their pianos to sound good? >> >Great seeing everyone in Nashville, >> >Bob Russell, RPT >> > >> >Clyde Hollinger <cedel@supernet.com> wrote: >> > >> > Julia, >> > >> > I do what is called by some "floating the pitch," >> although I >> >would >> > not do this for a concert where the piano really needs to be at >> >A-440. >> > >> > My experience is that in this area humidity generally peaks in >> > August and September and hits the lowest usually in February >> >and >> > March. So we are on the rise at this point of July. When I >> >sit >> > down to tune a piano, I use my RCT to test where the pitches of >> > the As are, from A1 to A6, and sometimes the lowest unwound >> > strings also. (If you tune aurally you'll need to use your own >> > system.) >> > >> > What I do next depends on the season and the situation. If >> >I've >> > been tuning the piano in July at A-440 for years, but suddenly >> > this year the whole piano is sharp, this is a humidity >> > aberration. If I tune it at A-440 again, it is almost a >> >certainty >> > that next year it will be flat. So I leave it sharp! . >> >Obviously >> > I keep good records so I can look back and see what has >> >happened >> > in the past 10-15 years. >> > >> > I do not like 6-month tunings that swing between high and low >> > humidity seasons. I have a couple customers like that, and >> > sometimes I never tune the piano to A-440, leaving it several >> > cents high in the summer and about the same amount low in the >> > winter. That way I'm putting less wear on the pinblock, and I >> > know that somewhere between tunings the piano is on target. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Clyde Hollinger, RPT >> > >> > Alpha88x@aol.com wrote: >> > >> >> Greetings, >> >> >> >> If the pianos are "swollen" just now >> >>(summertime), >> >> due to the humid mountanous atmosphere of this part of >> >> Pennsylvania, is it OK to tune above A440? >> >> >> >> I have been tuning for alittle over a >> year now. >> >>I >> >> have found that pianos which the customer tells me >> havent been >> >> tuned for 5 or more years, are very close to A440, yet they >> >>are >> >> terribly out of tune as far as unisons and horribly flat >> upper >> >> octaves. >> >> >> >> In other words, I will get a call to have a >> >>piano >> >> tuned and am told its been 5 plus yaears since last tuning, >> >>yet >> >> the A below middle C is right on or ne! ar 440. Other >> pianos I >> >>go >> >> to, the customer will say it's been 2 years and these are >> >> actually a few beats above A440. >> >> >> >> I never turn them back to A440, I figure >> they >> >>are >> >> swelled right now, and if I turn them down to 440 now, then, >> >>when >> >> the summer is over they will go below 440 when the heat goes >> >>on. >> >> Last summer, I had my first few tunings and I turned pianos >> >>back >> >> down to 440 and I was wondering if my fork was >> off...This year >> >>I >> >> figured it out. I think I am correct, but I want to be >> sure on >> >>this. >> >> >> >> This year, (with my whole whopping 16 months >> >> expertise) If I go into a situation and its a few beats >> above >> >> 440 I tune it right there. In fact, if the customer doesnt >> >>have >> >> a dehumidifer or ar conditioning, I even pull the piano up a >> >>bit >> >> to be alittle above A440. Pianos "should" be >> s! harp just now, >> >> right? How am I on this? Am I figuring OK on this? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Julia Gottchall, >> >> Reading, PA >> > >> <> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Check out the latest news, polls and tools in the MSN 2004 Election >> Guide! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/40/91/ba/8f/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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