question about temperament strips (was RE: one rubber mute)

[Paul McCloud]

You can use two strips, running parallel.  You can also push the loops up
or down to put the strip at an angle.  The closer the loop is to the
string, the tighter it will be.  
I use action cloth.  I taper the strip so it will fit better by using a
straightedge and a circular cloth cutter.  The wide part is used in the low
tenor, and the narrow end clears the hammers as they get close to the
pressure bar.  I use another narrow strip (1/4" wide) in the treble section
over the dampers.
Paul McCloud
San Diego
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> [Original Message]
> From: David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Date: 11/05/2004 11:20:17 PM
> Subject: Re: question about temperament strips (was RE: one rubber mute)
>
> Rubber temp strips are terrible.   The stick going in and out.   They
probably wear longer though...
> Don't forget the tip about inserting the temp strip in every other space
and then coming back with another and 
> filling in the spaces.   You can then pull out one strip and tune the
exposed string to your tuned center strings.   Then pull the other and do
the same.
>
> David I.
>
>
> ----- Original message ---------------------------------------->
> From: Dave Nereson <davner@kaosol.net>
> To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Received: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:10:22 -0700
> Subject: Re: question about temperament strips (was RE: one rubber mute)
>
>
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Lesher, Trent J." <tlesher@sachnoff.com>
> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 4:44 PM
> >Subject: question about temperament strips (was RE: one rubber mute)
>
>
>
> >> I was wondering if anyone else finds it difficult to adequately damp
the 
> >> outside strings with a felt temperament strip.   <
>
> >    Temperament strips come in at least three thicknesses.  The unisons 
> >aren't spaced the same distance apart on all pianos.  Sometimes you need
a 
> >thin strip, sometimes a thick.  Sometimes even the thick isn't thick
enough 
> >and you have to use action cloth.  Or it's not thin enough and you have
to 
> >use spring rail cloth -- whatever;  experiment.  Rubber temp. strips are 
> >also available, but I've never tried one.  It also helps if you do a 
> >rough-in first, then bring in the unisons at least fairly near beatless
so 
> >you don't have wildly-beating "bleed-through."  When first learning,
rubber 
> >mutes may be better since they kill the the unwanted strings better. 
And 
> >don't put the temp. strip up too close to the pressure bar (I know; it
HAS 
> >to be above a certain point) in the low tenor since those are long
strings 
> >and you want to have the strip just above where the hammers hit.
> >    Don't know what else to say except that some pianos just have weird 
> >background frequencies, beats, partials, noises that come through.  You 
> >might check the duplex scale and maybe put a piece of masking tape
across it 
> >temporarily if it's not already muted out with stringing braid (I know, 
> >under the bass strings, this is next to impossible).
> >    But there shouldn't be anything peculiar to an M&H that makes it any 
> >more difficult to tune.
> >    --David Nereson, RPT 
>
>
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