Who REALLY won the election ???? ( OT)

[gordon stelter]

A slight addition: Corporate CEO's are now, in the US,
"earning" ( on average ) 300 times what their floor
workers make. ( About $1,6oo/hr ) This is the grossest
disparity in pay this nation has ever seen, and the
widest on earth. Many full time workers can now barely
afford to eat and stay warm.
     The concept of "noblesse oblige " ( using your
priveleged status to aid others and reform society )
has been replaced with rampant, bald faced greed. Yet
many who claim to be "Christian" vote for these folks
and their pals. ( Ken Lay of Enron "fame" was Bush's
best pal and # 1 campaign donor in 2000 )

     Go figure
     Thump


    
--- marc avery <marc_avery@hotmail.com> wrote:

> First of all it wasn't a "landslide victory". 
> Fifty-one percent of the 
> popular vote was cast by an estimated 60% of the
> total eligible voters.  
> This means that Bush received backing from about 31%
> of all elibible U.S. 
> voters.  That my friend is hardly a "landslide". 
> Secondly, I am so sick of 
> every right wing zombie always falling back to the
> same old message of "the 
> left wing media".  Almost every day during the
> Clinton adlministration we 
> had to hear about the great "Whitewater scandal".
> I actually work for one of those left wing media
> operations that you speak 
> about.  Let me tell you this buddy, those networks
> are huge corporations.  
> Huge corporations that benefit from administrations
> like Bush's.  Didn't 
> Bush just sign a new tax cut for corporations?  Oh,
> and here's your next 
> comment I'm sure.....  "Well corporations hire
> people, so with the new tax 
> cut they will be able to hire more people".   YEA
> RIGHT!  That savings will 
> go directly into the pockets of the major
> shareholders and the staggering 
> amount of Presidents and VP's that these companies
> have.
> For the rest of us, well we will probably go through
> another series of 
> budget cuts.  By the way, I've gone through four of
> these cuts in the last 
> four years.  I make $18,000 per year LESS than I did
> 3 years ago. By the 
> way, there were NO budget cuts here during the
> entire Clinton years in 
> office.
> It was also Bush's daddy that was most responsible
> for deregulating the 
> broadcast industry.
> Now we have three to four major players that own
> most of the broadcast 
> properties in the United States.  It's embarrassing
> the wages most of their 
> employees make.  But since these companies usually
> own 4 to 5 stations each 
> in every market (especially major markets), these
> people have nowhere to go 
> to get a better salary.  In broadcasting, the way a
> person moved up was to 
> change stations every few years for better pay and
> better positions.  Now 
> with "standardized pay scales" in these
> CORPORATIONS, there is no place to 
> go to scrape out a better living.  Thank you again
> Mr. Bush.
> And lastly some food for thought.  Take a look at a
> graph of the national 
> deficit from the beginning of the Clinton
> administration (1992) through 
> today.  If you were on the board of directors of a
> major company and took a 
> look at those numbers (because numbers are the ONLY
> concern of the modern 
> corporation), who would YOU select for your next
> CEO?
> 
> Values?.....  I value being able to earn a decent
> living.  I value being 
> considered a human being, not a number.  I value not
> having to worry about 
> my job every year.
> For me, I'm certainly not better off than I was 4
> years ago.  How about you?
> 
> And as for"liberalism being dead politically".  I
> believe liberalism was 
> voted FOR by 48% of those Americans who voted.
> 
> Marc
> 
> >From: LarryinAtlanta@aol.com
> >Reply-To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >To: pianotech@ptg.org
> >Subject: Re: Who REALLY won the election ???? ( OT)
> >Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 02:14:10 EST
> >
> >In a message dated 11/8/2004 1:25:49 AM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> >sarah@graphic-fusion.com writes:
> >Of course this is only a rough
> >estimate, but my tentative conclusion would be that
> George Bush is the only
> >2-term US president never to have been elected.
> >
> >Sarah, the only thing you've "proven" is that
> someone was playing fast and
> >loose with the numbers from the exit polls. Let's
> look at this logically - 
> >if
> >there was anything to this conspiracy theory picked
> up from the known to be
> >unreliable source of underground democrats.org, the
> media arm of the DNC  - 
> >CBS,
> >ABC, NBC - would be all over it. Since they aren't,
> it's fair to say 
> >there's no
> >truth to it. Since the source of the "story" is a
> bunch of leftist nutbobs,
> >it's fair to say that the news media is correct in
> not talking about it. I
> >assure you that if Dan Rather could find the
> slightest bit of truth to work 
> >with,
> >he'd be out there right now telling us all about
> it, even if he had to make
> >most of it up like usual. Your party had tens of
> thousands of lawyers all 
> >over
> >the place watching for the slightest thing they
> could complain about. So 
> >did
> >the Republicans. Most all of them said it was a
> valid election.
> >
> >No, the simple fact is this. America turned out in
> record numbers, and gave
> >Bush a landslide victory. America voted not only
> *for* Bush, they voted
> >*against* your ideology. In record numbers.
> Liberalism is dead politically. 
> >America
> >said you have taken your party too far to the left,
> and lost your way. You 
> >no
> >longer represent what Americans consider American
> values. Almost 
> >immediately
> >after the election, your party leaders began
> admitting that the election 
> >was a
> >statement by the citizens of America telling them
> they reject your views 
> >and
> >values.
> >
> >You lost. Get over it. Instead of trying to justify
> your loss with 
> >conspiracy
> >theories spread by leftwing nutcases and
> embarassing yourself with 
> >statements
> >like the one quoted above, you and the rest of your
> party need to take a 
> >good
> >hard look at why your party has lost yet again, and
> why if you don't open
> >your eyes and address the *real* problem your party
> and its current 
> >ideology is
> >destined to be a minority party for decades to
> come.
> >
> >Frankly, I think that's the best place for it.
> 
>
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