This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Mike, Studies made on strings from a Bechstein offered to Richard Wagner and = dated from 1864 showed that the wire used by Bechstein in those years = has identical properties than modern R=F6slau wire (average 2200 N/mm=B2 = breaking strain). Anyway, those pianos are scaled so that the tension = of the strings stays at about 40 % of the in situ breaking strain (even = less at the tenor/bass cross over). By the way I am not sure at all = that (as you often read it) a string sounds better when it gets closer = to break point. Yes, the partials get closer to a harmonious value, but = at the same time, the sustain of the note decreases drastically, and for = my taste, some inharmonicity is good for aesthetical results. In those = years, piano desingers did their work by ear, which is, I believe, the = very best method. For any Bechstein as for any Steinway, I would use = regular modern R=F6slau, and not expect any catastrophy if tuned at 435 = or 445 Hz. St=E9phane Collin. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Piano Forte Supply=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:52 AM Subject: 1883 Bechstein upright, "standard" pitch/scale tension Mike, when restoring these Victorian Era pianos, you may want to look into = restringing with Pure Sound Wire http://www.puresound-wire.com/ A quote from the website: " Present-day piano wire is too stiff and = its tensile strength is higher than necessary, causing a very low = percentage of string load and therefore lack of tone quality." Jurgen Goering www.pianofortesupply.com List, Today I'm disassembling an old Bechstein upright for refinish and = restringing. Serial number dates it 1883. Interesting features: full = cast plate, including full coverage of tuning pin field. Wooden = (mahogany) action brackets, at ends only (no intermediate brackets). = Relatively small for an upright, with only 85 notes.=20 I would appreciate any insights you might have regarding what pitch = it would have been designed for. I've found brief mention of standards = adopted in 1885 in Vienna (435) and London (455), however C. Bechstein = was in Berlin. I would like to evaluate and improve on the scale - = obviously got to know what pitch to tune it to when I'm done. The = existing strings and pins appear uniformly old, but I wouldn't want to = assume they're original. =20 thanks for any info on pitch / tension Mike Michael Spalding spalding48@earthlink.net ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/f0/1e/e7/1a/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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