How do we tell customers that the work done on their pianos stinks?

gordon stelter lclgcnp@yahoo.com
Sun, 14 Nov 2004 05:31:10 -0800 (PST)


The BEST part in a situation like this is telling the
customer that the former "technician" did useless and
crappy work. USUALLY the customer gets mad at YOU
instead of them! ( And doesn't believe you, i.e. "That
nice old man, xxxxx, worked on MY piano!"  ( Smiling,
with beaming eyes. )
     Does anyone here have suggestions on how to
handle telling a customer that the work they just paid
for is absolutely worthless garbage ?

     Thump

P.S. I played a small private reception for a
celebrity  you'd all recognize last night, in a big
mansion.......... on a Wurlitzer console. The owner
came up to me, beaming, "How do you like it ?" I
rejected the first 10 answers that came to mind, bit
my lip and politely said "It's OK ". ( I'm not good at
lying ) "When was it tuned ?" " Sometime in the last
year!" he beamed again.
     Sheesh!


--- Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Of course! But it's ok because the originals are
> those really nice ones with the knuckle integrated
> into the shank!
> 
> I'm sure you all have seen this kind of crap
> workmanship before, but last night I thought I would
> turn my attention to the backchecks and putting a
> radius on the hammer tails. The guy also put new
> backchecks on. Every one at a unique height. Many
> pushing up adjacent hammers upon key stroke. The
> hammer tails hit the backcheck at about a 45 degree
> angle (tails don't check, they clunk!). Then I try
> to gang sand the tails for a radius. Tails are
> angled every which way. In, out, rotated.
> 
> If you took all the loose parts, thew them in a box
> and shook it up and then looked inside, you would
> have something that looks pretty close to this
> action. I am exaggerating only slightly.
> 
> Arrrrggggg! It would have been less work to try and
> make the original parts function, rather than trying
> to make this hodge-podge of parts function.    :-(
> 
> Ain't there a law?????
> 
> Terry Farrell
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Avery Todd 
>   To: Pianotech 
>   Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:47 PM
>   Subject: Re: Front Rail Punching Interference
> 
> 
>   Just wondering, but did "they" also install those
> new hammers on old shanks/knuckles? :-) 
> 
>   Avery 
> 
>   At 03:56 PM 11/13/04, you wrote:
> 
>     I think I found part of the problem already. The
> tooner before me "rebuilt the piano" - you know, the
> full monty - new strings, hammers, damper felts (yes
> indeed, hanging way out past the damper heads) and
> keytops  - none of which were installed
> straight/aligned, etc. I imagine this thing had
> ivory keytops originally. The new keytops are thick
> plastic (~2mm), and yup, you guessed it, he didn't
> plane the keytops down to compensate for the thicker
> keytops - so now I have keys that are one or two
> millimeters thicker than original.....
>      
>     Oh well, back to the drawing board ........ er,
> a, regulating table......
>      
>     Terry Farrell
> 
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>       From: antares 
> 
>       To: Pianotech 
> 
>       Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 4:04 PM
> 
>       Subject: Re: Front Rail Punching Interference
> 
> 
>       Terry,
> 
> 
>       First of all, you need to know the exact key
> height of your key board.
> 
>       This is the key to your regulation.
> 
>       For instance.... the key height for Steinway
> model S-B (measured from the key bed to the
> underside of the key top covering) is 63 mm.
> 
>       For Yamaha's this 64 mm.
> 
>       It is the only way to get your basis straight.
> 
>       After that, we're talking.
> 
> 
>       André Oorebeek
> 
> 
>       On 13-nov-04, at 20:47, Farrell wrote:
> 
> 
>         <?fontfamily><?param
> Arial><?smaller>Help!<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
> 
> 
> 
>         <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>I'm
> trying to regulate a Baldwin "Monarch" microgrand
> action. I haven't looked up the piano's age (can't
> find my Pierce Atlas), but it is from the first half
> of the 20th Century. I've run into this before. I
> level keys (1/2" sharp height), regulate blow,
> let-off, etc., and then go to set aftertouch. When I
> have the proper aftertouch on the sharps, the
> adjacent naturals hit the sharp front rail punching
> before they hit their own front rail punching when
> depressing the natural.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
> 
> 
> 
>         <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>That's
> bad.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
> 
> 
> 
>         <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>What
> gives? Have I done something stupid? Have I simply
> overlooked something?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
> 
> 
> 
>         <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Another
> thing - I have to reduce blow to 1-3/4 inches to
> provide sufficient key travel (about 3/8 inches -
> way less than spec) to allow let-off and a tad of
> aftertouch. I replaced the back rail felt with
> original thickness (which is the thinnest sold by
> the supply houses), I am using the thinnest front
> rail punchings available, and I even have key height
> a little bit higher than they were (and above spec -
> more than 2-1/2 inches - I'm quite sure I'm still OK
> with the fallboard).<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
> 
> 
> 
>         <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Again,
> what gives? Action clearly appears all
> original.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
> 
> 
> 
>         <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>This is
> all a lot easier when you rebuild the action, go
> through the Stanwood and geometry stuff, and have it
> all correct from the get-go! Because, as in this
> case, it can't be me, it's gotta be the action!
> Right?   ;-)<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
> 
> 
> 
>         <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Thanks
> for anything anyone has to
> offer.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
> 
> 
> 
>         <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Terry
> Farrell<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
> 
> 
>       friendly greetings
> 
>       from
> 
>       André Oorebeek
> 
> 
>       "where Music is, no harm can be"
> 



		
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