Good book on voicing...?

Stéphane Collin collin.s@skynet.be
Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:37:52 +0100


Hello Dave.

In addition to what you said, I would like to bring up the weight of the 
hammer (considered as a voicing issue) and the strike point (considered in 
the same way).  I believe that those two variables affect much what happens 
when you put your needles in the hammer felt.  Not to mention, of course, 
how the acoustic body responds to all this, because at voicing time, it is 
too late to alter that.
Does anyone have guide lines as how to diagnose a too heavy or too light 
hammer on basis of the sound it produces (instead of on basis of weight 
control) ?

Best regards

Stéphane Collin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Nereson" <davner@kaosol.net>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Good book on voicing...?


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>    This is a cynical view, I guess, but I think the reason there has been 
> no comprehensive book yet on voicing is that:
>    Even expert voicers disagree on many of the points you mention.  Some 
> voice the side of the hammer for a certain result where someone else would 
> voice the crown or shoulder for that same result.  And they have different 
> procedures for different types of hammers.  And they disagree on the 
> length of needles to use and whether they should be round (cylindrical) or 
> triangular (glovers' needles).  Or they prefer applying liquids instead of 
> jabbing with needles.
>    In 25 years of reading Journals and other piano literature and 
> attending chapter technicals and voicing classes & seminars at 
> conventions, I've seen only one diagram that showed which specific area to 
> needle for attack, which area for sustain, and which one for volume.  And 
> it probably works for only one type of hammer.
>    Some voicers stab away madly with a 3-needle tool while someone else 
> might carefully do just one single-needle jab at a precise spot on the 
> crown to achieve the same result.
>    If "a pleasing tone" weren't such a subjective, abstract, elusive 
> quality, subject to personal taste, there might be more concrete 
> information on the subject.
>    There have been lengthy discussions about it on this list, not just in 
> general, but concerning Yamaha hammers, Renner blues, Abels, Asian hammers 
> in general, Steinway hammers, Hamburg Steinway (Steinweg) hammers, ad 
> infinitum.
>    You could go through the archives looking for the discussions, but they 
> might be listed under any conceivable off-topic subject other than 
> "voicing."
>    --David Nereson, RPT
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