Mysterious Buzzing

David Ilvedson ilvey@sbcglobal.net
Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:50:57 -0800


I've had a similar event...it was a screw on the keybed of a Kawai UST7...I think...

David I.



----- Original message ---------------------------------------->
From: Carl Teplitski <koko99@shaw.ca>
To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
Received: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:41:55 -0600
Subject: Re: Mysterious Buzzing

>Some time ago, the Yamaha teaching school owner in my area called and asked
>me if I could look at a studio piano which the teachers had been complaining
>about.
>Apparently there was a buzz when some notes were played. I actually couldn't
>reproduce
>the effect, so the owner came in and finally made it buzz. Well, while he was
>there, I tried
>the normal chechs to isolate the noise, to no avail. When he left, I continued
>and finally
>decided that the problem had to be in the keybed. Started to take some keys out,

>and spotted a womans hairpin laying in the keybed, in some dust and lint. Sure
>enough,
>when I held the pin tight, the noise stopped. I called the owner in to see this,
>because
>I think it's good for nontechnical people to see that these are problems which
>can occur,
>and can be very difficult to find, because most people don't appreciate the
>situation.
>Took all the keys out and vacummed. Problem solved, but for a couple of weeks he

>brought it up whenever there was a problem of anykind. ( in jest, of course ). A
>good man,
>and appreciated what happened.

>Carl / Winnipeg

>Jim Kinnear wrote:

>> Patrick
>> Had  the same annoying problem .. . eventually found a kid's glass marble,
>> wedged between the soundboard and the rear bottom frame . . . only buzzed
>> for Ab . . .
>> took an hour to locate with the owner pounding the key and me crawling
>> around on my hands and knees with my head in the piano at her feet . .
>> wasn't a pretty picture . .
>>
>> I'm sure she wondered if I was some kind of nut . . . till I showed her the
>> marble !!
>> patience & persistance got a whole new meaning !!
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Jim Kinnear
>> www.kinnearpiano.com
>> Collingwood, ON, Canada
>>
>> The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress
>>   -- Joseph Joubert (1754-1824) French Philosopher
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Driscoll" <tomtuner@comcast.net>
>> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mysterious Buzzing
>>
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Patrick C. Poulson" <pcpoulso@pacbell.net>
>> > Subject: Mysterious Buzzing
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hello All: I need some help in tracing down a buzz in a Vose upright
>> > piano.
>> > > The buzz in question shows up while playing F5, whichi is two notes down
>> > > from the strut. I have done all the usual tests and corrections that I
>> > > usuall rely on, such as looking for cracks in the sound board, pressing
>> on
>> > > ribs in search of loose glue joints, reseating the strings, smoothing
>> down
>> > > the V-bar, cleaning up the notching, and cursing under my breath. We
>> also
>> > > vacuumed out the cabinet inside and out. Any ideas? Thanks,
>> > > Patrick C. Poulson
>> > >
>> >
>> >  Patrick,
>> >     No , Can't help you.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     Seriously,We've all been there---What can help is to have someone
>> > generate the buzz whilst you crawl up ,under,over ,behind and around this
>> > thing.Locating where the buzz is loudest can be a good start.For example
>> if
>> > its louder at the top in front one would look to pressure bar etc as
>> opposed
>> > to louder behind the soundboard at the edge would direct you to the
>> > soundboard-rim connection.
>> >     I'm not inferring that either of these is your problem ,but narrowing
>> > down location is a good start.
>> >     If you can isolate this buzz to one unison and further to one string,
>> > sometimes replacing the string can eliminate the buzz,
>> >     I know its not very conclusive as to the cause,but it will sometimes
>> > work.
>> >     Tom Driscoll RPT
>> >
>> >
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