OT Windows XP SP2

Horace Greeley hgreeley@stanford.edu
Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:49:50 -0700


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Avery,

At 09:24 PM 10/4/2004, you wrote:
>I've never heard yet of anyone recommending installing this update. Yet!
>Except Microsoft, of course. Even our university recommends waiting because
>of all the possible conflicts with major programs.

There is a whole EM list set up specifically to try to deal with SP2 issues 
at colleges and universities.  It's been pretty quiet in the last few days; 
but, frankly, I think that largely has to do with folks waiting to see 
what/how MS is going to respond to some of the problems that they created 
in releasing this SP in the way in which they have.

While SP2 is generally being pushed out at Stanford, that installation is 
being blocked by a number of the non-academic departments directly because 
of problems with financial/HR reported elsewhere.

>Besides that possibility, I've also heard to wait until at least "most" of
>the bugs in the update are fixed. You think there won't be some???? :-)

Depends on who you talk to.  It is pretty clear that there are (altogether) 
~ 200 applications that either do not work properly and/or are simply 
broken by SP2.  There have been several more updates (in some cases updates 
of updates) which deal with a number of problems...without spending 
entirely too much time fully reading each and every announcement, it is 
sometimes hard to tell what one should and should not install.

 From the perspective of the "average" home user, it _might_ be a different 
story...those who do not use fancy management and/or complicated stuff like 
upper-end games should check the sites listed below and then think about 
going ahead.  Cy's recommendations are very sound.  The only thing I might 
add further would be to move from XP Home to XP Pro, if you are using the 
"Home" edition.  Folks using Win2K, whose machines are stable and all that, 
are probably well advised to stay put until the fuss dies down a bit more.

Anyway, I generally don't post on this kind of stuff here...it is a piano 
list - but, these are things which materially impact folks, and that kind 
of communication is what makes lists like this worthwhile in the first place.

Best to all.

Horace




>Avery
>
>At 05:59 PM 10/4/04, you wrote:
>
>>Hi, Cy,
>>
>>Overall, really good advice; especially the link to checking vendor 
>>support sites.  Sometimes per-machine updates have changed by just a few 
>>serial numbers.
>>
>>A few additional notes from the trenches:
>>
>>  - If your download/install of Win XP SP2 is only 50 MB, you have been 
>> lucky.  The "corporate" download (for XP Pro) is right at 
>> 276MB.  Further, there have been several versions of this SP put out (so 
>> far) by MS; at least three have been counted.  Yes, ordering the CD from 
>> MS is probably the most reasonable approach for anyone with dialup 
>> connectivity.
>>
>>  - Yes, it has some cool features; and yes, some of them are really 
>> improvements.  At the same time, it is, under the hood, a pretty serious 
>> rewrite of the entire OS code; replacing many original files right along 
>> with many that have come out in various hotfixes/etc.
>>
>>  - In light of this, before installing this (or, for that matter, any 
>> other major service pack), it would be really prudent to back up your 
>> entire machine, especially all your data files.
>>
>>  - Be sure to check the list of programs with known SP2 conflicts.  It 
>> is not a small list, nor limited to older software.  Here is the link:
>>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=842242&product=windowsxpsp2
>>
>>  - Allow plenty of time for this upgrade to take place.  It can take as 
>> long as a new OS install.
>>
>>Be careful out there!
>>
>>Best.
>>
>>Horace
>>
>>At 02:47 PM 10/4/2004, you wrote:
>>>I've just installed XP SP2. Its focus is on improving security, and it 
>>>has some nice features. However, it's a huge update (around 50 Meg to 
>>>download), and overall takes a couple of hours to install (downloading 
>>>is just the beginning!). Pick a time when you don't need the computer 
>>>for anything urgent, as there's a chance that you may have to fiddle 
>>>with it to get some particular program working again (TuneLab Pro's fine).
>>>
>>>If you only have dialup access, you will definitely want to order the CD 
>>>from Microsoft, rather than attempt downloading. If you have Automatic 
>>>Updates turned on, you might want to turn them off this month, so 
>>>Microsoft doesn't download them for you (it's on Control Panel).
>>>
>>>Here's an overview of the new features:
>>><http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx
>>>
>>>Before installing SP2, check your hardware vendor's site for any 
>>>SP2-specific updates which you may need to apply first:
>>><http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/oemlinks.mspx>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/oemlinks.mspx
>>>If your PC isn't on this list, go to Control Panel | System and click 
>>>the "Support Information" button.
>>>
>>>Also before installing, check this list of software for programs which 
>>>may be affected (notably old versions of ZoneAlarm). Update them first:
>>>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];xpsp2swhw
>>>
>>>Lastly, make sure you have lots of free disk space, and check your file 
>>>system for errors first (click Start, Help, and search for "repairing 
>>>disk errors"). After installing SP2, run the error check again, and then 
>>>defragment your C: drive (because of all the updates).
>>>
>>>Good luck!
>>>
>>>--Cy--
>>>

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