---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On 22-okt-04, at 22:58, Richard Brekne wrote: > > My point is that there is a lot of old good soundboard wood just being=20= > burnt up, and this stuff is really quite usefull. Its not nearly as=20= > difficult to process as some would have it, and regardless of whether=20= > or not you believe it yields some characteristic sound only old wood=20= > can yeild, it certainly can be used to make wonderful sounding=20 > soundboards. Since its basically free, aside from the labour (which is=20= > mostly waiting time) to remove it and the ribbing... I fail to see any=20= > real downsides. Sure, that's right. > >> In that case, it would be much better to install a totally new=20 >> soundboard and maybe also a new treble bridge. Then there is of=20 >> course the trouble with old scaling : if the old scale was faulty,=20 >> then I assume there is not much you can do about it, except putting=20= >> in a brand new frame, or altering the frame, like Ron Overs does. > > There is nothing really to keep you from using an old panel in a new=20= > design. Both ribs and bridge can be removed. The only thing an old=20 > panel seemingly can not be used for is a compression crowned=20 > soundboard, as the panel is already maxed out in that regard. But if=20= > you are installing a rib crowned board, its just dandy. However, to my ears an older and more brittle soundboard does sound=20 different than a new one. I think the old board has lost a lot of juice and what remained has=20 more or less crystallized, so their is definitely a difference between=20= old and new. Now indeed, that does not have to be bad, but I think it is more a=20 matter of choice. I just finished my voicing work on the Steinway you and Arnold and I=20 worked on together. That is an older Steinway I think from the 1920's and I must tell you=20 that this Steinway O sounds truly amazing indeed. Pretty soon, the big Bl=FCthner will be ready, Arnold is installing a = new=20 soundboard on that one and I am dying to hear it and will let you know=20= how that story ends. > >> >> It remains a tricky business, and especially so with old Steinways. > > > Well.... grin... thats why they pay dem guys the big bucks now aint it=20= > ? :) > You taking to me? Are you actually talking to me? grin (; >))))) > >> nevertheless, If I had the choice between a nice new Steinway B=20 >> versus a nice old Steinway B, my choice would definitely be the new=20= >> one. >> > Not me.... I'd choose each for its own sound. Lets face it... some=20 > new B's suck a rock. I wanna face that Ric, I have never before in my life seen a B suck a=20 rock... man! what a sight! > Heck.. even the most consistant sound around (Yamaha) has really huge=20= > variations in pianosound from instrument to instrument. If any=20 > particular old B sounds better then any particular new one... then so=20= > be it. We have two C's at the UiB, and you liked the older of the two=20= > when you were here, and that was just after the best voicer in Norway=20= > had dressed up the newer one, and inexperienced me did what I could on=20= > the old one. And just about everyone who runs into those two pianos=20 > agree, and really have since the day the newer one was purchased. I=20= > take one by one myself. nevertheless, I think I will warn our mutual Nippon friends that they=20 should make you suck a rock too this time. I want to see you come back=20= a learned but battered man hehehehe.... (; EAR friendly greetings from Andr=E9 Oorebeek "where Music is, no harm can be" ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3540 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/5d/b2/0f/b0/attachment.bin ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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