Finishing soundboard under/backsides

James Grebe pianoman@accessus.net
Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:21:08 -0500


brand name please 
James Grebe
Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair
Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups
(314) 608-4137
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1526 Raspberry Lane
Arnold, MO 63010
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pianoman@accessus.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: Finishing soundboard under/backsides


> I got mine at the local Lowes.
>      Thump
> 
> 
> --- James Grebe <pianoman@accessus.net> wrote:
> 
> > I mean clear gloss epoxie in a spray can.
> > James Grebe
> > Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair
> > Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups
> > (314) 608-4137
> > WWW.JamesGrebe.com
> > 1526 Raspberry Lane
> > Arnold, MO 63010
> > BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!
> > pianoman@accessus.net
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: Finishing soundboard under/backsides
> > 
> > 
> > > Clear gloss lacquer.
> > >
> > > Terry Farrell
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net>
> > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Finishing soundboard under/backsides
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have for a long time trying to find Epoxie
> > clear gloss in a spray can.
> > > I
> > > > used to spray plates with the epoxie gold and
> > then finish with clear
> > gloss
> > > > epoxie but have not been able to find for many
> > years now.  What is your
> > > > source for clear gloss in a spray can.
> > > > James Grebe
> > > > Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair
> > > > Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups
> > > > (314) 608-4137
> > > > WWW.JamesGrebe.com
> > > > 1526 Raspberry Lane
> > > > Arnold, MO 63010
> > > > BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!
> > > > pianoman@accessus.net
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:10 PM
> > > > Subject: Finishing soundboard under/backsides
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > List,
> > > > >      I work on a  lot of old uprights with
> > revoltingly
> > > > > filthy soundboard backs. As these are usually
> > > > > shellacked, I just fill my spray gun with
> > lacquer
> > > > > thinner and, outside on big pieces of
> > cardboard from
> > > > > the furniture store, blast away, usinga 
> > bottle brush
> > > > > to get behind beams, into corners, etc..
> > > > >      Of course I wear a gas mask gloves and
> > goggles.
> > > > >      As the back is hard to brush finish
> > neatly, I
> > > > > spray on epoxy varnish from cans.
> > > > >      Amnyone have better ideas?
> > > > >      Thump
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- ANRPiano@aol.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > List,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This has been quite an active question.  I
> > am gone
> > > > > > most of the day and  come
> > > > > > back and find dozens of comments.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will try to fill in the blanks and answer
> > the
> > > > > > questions posed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the question of stability, I will not
> > even try to
> > > > > > explain that which I  do
> > > > > > not understand. However, when the new
> > Fazioli dealer
> > > > > > was opened in Chicago I
> > > > > > had an opportunity to have some
> > conversations with
> > > > > > Mr. Fazioli.  One
> > > > > > particular area of extensive attempted
> > conversation
> > > > > > (we were battling accent,
> > > > > > language and noise) was the finishing of his
> > > > > > soundboards.  I was able to  gather in
> > > > > > a general sense that he uses a finishing
> > material
> > > > > > which significantly  reduces
> > > > > > the movement of moisture in his soundboards.
> >  In
> > > > > > conversations I  have had
> > > > > > with David Graham, who maintains these gems,
> > he has
> > > > > > told me of their  remarkable
> > > > > > stability.  Certainly we can't prevent
> > moisture
> > > > > > movement in wood  (I doubt
> > > > > > that would such a good idea anyway), but we
> > can slow
> > > > > > the rate and thus  flatten
> > > > > > out some of the swings the soundboard
> > experiences.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All of the soundboards I have applied epoxy
> > to have
> > > > > > had crown, flat boards
> > > > > > get replaced.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I use System Three Epoxy.  The surface
> > condition is
> > > > > > usually pretty  rough
> > > > > > after drying and I sand it and coat it with
> > lacquer
> > > > > > and rub it out to a  satin
> > > > > > (usually) finish.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have thought about coating the underside,
> > but have
> > > > > > never under taken this
> > > > > > task.  Maybe next time I will see if I can
> > notice
> > > > > > any appreciable  difference
> > > > > > (besides the extra time).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have never warmed the epoxy to improve
> > flow, but I
> > > > > > think I will try that
> > > > > > the next time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been debating with myself over the
> > wisdom of
> > > > > > using epoxy as a sealer
> > > > > > on a new soundboard.  Any thoughts on this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope that helps some.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andrew Remillard
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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