Oops! ( Special to Mr. Farrel )

Farrell mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:09:14 -0400


Unfortunately, illness in family has prevented me from going to NC.   :-(

Terry F


> Sorry about that. That message was meant for Terry.
> Getting tired.
>      GS
> 
> --- gordon stelter <lclgcnp@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > If I could afford to go to NC, I would. Very pretty
> > up
> > there this time of year!
> >      Please look at your map. Athens is probably
> > right
> > along your trip if you take 441 from Macon to
> > Commerce
> > ( and a  lot more fun than driving through Atlanta!
> > )
> >      If you have time to stop by and see those 3
> > fantabulous 1890's Knabe uprights I have for sale,
> > I'd
> > like to show them to you.
> >  Cheap.
> >      Thump
> > 
> > 
> > --- Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Epoxy is a two-part system. Resin and hardener.
> > Not
> > > sure what epoxie is.
> > > Anything that isn't two-part isn't real epoxy -
> > > maybe something related
> > > though. Hard to imagine real epoxy in a spray can.
> > > Would have a pretty short
> > > shelf life I should think!  ;-)
> > > 
> > > Terry Farrell
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net>
> > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:14 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Finishing soundboard under/backsides
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I mean clear gloss epoxie in a spray can.
> > > > James Grebe
> > > > Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair
> > > > Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups
> > > > (314) 608-4137
> > > > WWW.JamesGrebe.com
> > > > 1526 Raspberry Lane
> > > > Arnold, MO 63010
> > > > BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!
> > > > pianoman@accessus.net
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> > > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:36 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Finishing soundboard
> > under/backsides
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Clear gloss lacquer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry Farrell
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net>
> > > > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:13 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Finishing soundboard
> > > under/backsides
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have for a long time trying to find Epoxie
> > > clear gloss in a spray
> > > can.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > used to spray plates with the epoxie gold
> > and
> > > then finish with clear
> > > > gloss
> > > > > > epoxie but have not been able to find for
> > many
> > > years now.  What is
> > > your
> > > > > > source for clear gloss in a spray can.
> > > > > > James Grebe
> > > > > > Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair
> > > > > > Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups
> > > > > > (314) 608-4137
> > > > > > WWW.JamesGrebe.com
> > > > > > 1526 Raspberry Lane
> > > > > > Arnold, MO 63010
> > > > > > BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!
> > > > > > pianoman@accessus.net
> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > > From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:10 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Finishing soundboard
> > under/backsides
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > List,
> > > > > > >      I work on a  lot of old uprights with
> > > revoltingly
> > > > > > > filthy soundboard backs. As these are
> > > usually
> > > > > > > shellacked, I just fill my spray gun with
> > > lacquer
> > > > > > > thinner and, outside on big pieces of
> > > cardboard from
> > > > > > > the furniture store, blast away, usinga 
> > > bottle brush
> > > > > > > to get behind beams, into corners, etc..
> > > > > > >      Of course I wear a gas mask gloves
> > and
> > > goggles.
> > > > > > >      As the back is hard to brush finish
> > > neatly, I
> > > > > > > spray on epoxy varnish from cans.
> > > > > > >      Amnyone have better ideas?
> > > > > > >      Thump
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- ANRPiano@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > List,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This has been quite an active question. 
> > I
> > > am gone
> > > > > > > > most of the day and  come
> > > > > > > > back and find dozens of comments.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I will try to fill in the blanks and
> > > answer the
> > > > > > > > questions posed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On the question of stability, I will not
> > > even try to
> > > > > > > > explain that which I  do
> > > > > > > > not understand. However, when the new
> > > Fazioli dealer
> > > > > > > > was opened in Chicago I
> > > > > > > > had an opportunity to have some
> > > conversations with
> > > > > > > > Mr. Fazioli.  One
> > > > > > > > particular area of extensive attempted
> > > conversation
> > > > > > > > (we were battling accent,
> > > > > > > > language and noise) was the finishing of
> > > his
> > > > > > > > soundboards.  I was able to  gather in
> > > > > > > > a general sense that he uses a finishing
> > > material
> > > > > > > > which significantly  reduces
> > > > > > > > the movement of moisture in his
> > > soundboards.  In
> > > > > > > > conversations I  have had
> > > > > > > > with David Graham, who maintains these
> > > gems, he has
> > > > > > > > told me of their  remarkable
> > > > > > > > stability.  Certainly we can't prevent
> > > moisture
> > > > > > > > movement in wood  (I doubt
> > > > > > > > that would such a good idea anyway), but
> > > we can slow
> > > > > > > > the rate and thus  flatten
> > > > > > > > out some of the swings the soundboard
> > > experiences.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All of the soundboards I have applied
> > > epoxy to have
> > > > > > > > had crown, flat boards
> > > > > > > > get replaced.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I use System Three Epoxy.  The surface
> > > condition is
> > > > > > > > usually pretty  rough
> > > > > > > > after drying and I sand it and coat it
> > > with lacquer
> > > > > > > > and rub it out to a  satin
> > > > > > > > (usually) finish.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have thought about coating the
> > > underside, but have
> > > > > > > > never under taken this
> > > > > > > > task.  Maybe next time I will see if I
> > can
> > > notice
> > > > > > > > any appreciable  difference
> > > > > > > > (besides the extra time).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have never warmed the epoxy to improve
> > > flow, but I
> > > > > > > > think I will try that
> > > > > > > > the next time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have been debating with myself over
> > the
> > > wisdom of
> > > > > > > > using epoxy as a sealer
> > > > > > > > on a new soundboard.  Any thoughts on
> > > this?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I hope that helps some.
> > 
> === message truncated ===
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