This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hello Ilex. No overly big deal. Feathers have settled down. I didn't = realize you were a member of PTG - I didn't see your name in the 2004 = directory. You'll find that just about anything that any larger = organization puts on a web page is copyrighted - so be careful! I'm not trying to be a PTG cop or anything, but that one was pretty = obvious. So I thought it best to say something. Case closed! Terry Farrell Terry -=20 apologies for ruffling feathers. Actually, I am a member of the PTG, = and also an artist who is very sensitive about copyright infringement. = The part on the page to which I am referring that lead me to go ahead = with this was " The preceding article is a reprint of Technical Bulletin = #1 published by the Piano Technicians Guild, Inc. It is provided on the = Internet as a service to piano owners. " Of course, since you've done a = lot further picking and referring from their website, I now see that = that was probably really wrong and stupid. Believe me, it is in my plans = to purchase actual brochures. Even when I don't have a printout on my = person, I still refer customers to the website.=20 However, thank you for clarification, education, and encouragement on = this matter. Once my wallet recovers from my dues I've already planned = on investing in several things through the ptg, not the least of which = is a set of brochures on pitch raising and regulation.=20 SORRY! -ilex -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On = Behalf Of Terry Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 5:57 AM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: The day's frustration What I find even more frustrating than Dave's day (as frustrating as = it obviously was) is folks who would pilfer from the PTG rather than = support an organization whose sole purpose is to foster the availability = of state-of-the-art technical information on piano technology. "If I hand my customer a printout from the PTG website" ........... = you will be guilty of copyright infringement. Don't do it. These = materials are available for sale at = http://ptg.org/merchandise/PTGStore05.pdf . "If I hand my customer a printout from the PTG website, it not only = credits the PTG for all of the information given, it also gives the url = for the PTG's website..." It not only gives the URL, but also indicates = that it is copyrighted - "=A9 1992 & 1994 The Piano Technicians Guild, = Inc." And if you look just a little further, on the home page you will = see:=20 "=A92000 This site is subject to copyrights owned by the Piano = Technicians Guild. All materials posted to this site are subject to = copyrights owned by the Piano Technicians Guild (PTG) and other = individuals or entities. Any reproduction, retransmission, or = republication of all or part of any document found on this site is = expressly prohibited, unless the PTG or the copyright owner of the = material has expressly granted prior written consent to so reproduce, = retransmit, or republish the material. All other rights reserved." You might want to consider joining the PTG and supporting the = organization that makes available technical information that is = "EXTREMELY useful in circumstances like these." "Printing off a copy of = the PTG explanation of a Pitch Raise..." or anything else is illegal and = IMHO, downright dishonest. Please consider supporting the PTG rather = than pilfering from the PTG. Terry Farrell I have actually found the PTG's website to be EXTREMELY useful in = circumstances like these. Printing off a copy of the PTG explanation of = a Pitch Raise (along with the faq of "why does my piano go out of tune" = yadda yadda), not only gives the customer concise information on piano = care and behaviour, but also gives them a legitimate reference point = outside of the word of one new tuner. They obviously don't know that = your work and intentions are honest, so for all they know, you could = just not be a very good tuner, and/or you could be trying to take them = for a ride, billing them for a bunch of bogus work. To their credit, = they're right to be skeptical - there ARE unfortunately a lot of tooners = (and other service people) who make their livings off of dishonest = upsales/scams. *WE* know you're not one of those, but your new and = uneducated customer doesn't. Think about it - it's kind of like when you = go in for a simple oil change and JoeBob at the quicklube tells you that = you need about $200 worth of additional work done on your car (even if = it's a tuneup, transmission flush, new air filter...). But last time, = you had your oil changed by Tommy up the street, and he didn't mention = any of that. Tommy's been changing your oil for years and has never had = to do anything more to it - tuneup? What's that?=20 If I hand my customer a printout from the PTG website, it not only = credits the PTG for all of the information given, it also gives the url = for the PTG's website - aha! Another valuable resource for piano owners = who just don't know any better. It also earns me brownie points for = going out of my way to show that *I* care about their piano, and that I = want to bother explaining these things to them. Lastly, it leaves them = with written information in a clear format (not handwritten. And do you = really want to take the time to write the whole pitch raise and false = beats shpiel out?) - 90 percent of what you verbally tell a customer = goes in one ear, gets jumbled up and confused, and leaks out the other = ear. Not because customers are stupid, but because most people simply = don't have the time or attention span - they have kids, which means they = have scouts, soccer practices, piano lessons, sunday school, pta = meetings, karate, ballet, etc. That simple piece of paper is something = they can refer to. Maybe they'll read it and respond positively, maybe = not. But you're at least covering your butt, doing all you can do, and = giving a chance for it. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/12/6e/84/46/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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