Oorebeeks Punch'ns

[David Love]

I am reminded of a discussion about rib crowned and supported
soundboards...

David Love
davidlovepianos@comcast.net 

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
Behalf Of William R. Monroe
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:39 PM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: Oorebeeks Punch'ns 

Gordon,

did you read Stephen Birkett's post, where he observes let-off not
occuring
before the key bottoms out, due to flexion in the system?  Good, Glad of
it.

I am saddened by all the posts trying to discredit Andre.  Just because
we
don't understand it, doesn't make it less valid.  Instead of working so
hard
to disprove something with our cynicism, Why not work equally hard to
"show"
why it works.  Thanks, Dr. Birkett, for your efforts at understanding
this
phenomenon.

Do you naysayers really think Andre is a bullshitter?  Start paying
attention.  Start working to improve things.  I feel like some of you
are
like the Steinways - "we're already perfect, so why try and improve?"
Sorry
for the rant, but I think Andre deserves a little more respect from
some.

Thanks for your work Andre.

Respectfully,
William R. Monroe



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: Oorebeeks Punch'ns


> Richard's point is one which occurred to me after
> reading of these punchings the first time---let-off
> occurs before the key bottoms out, so what effect
> could punchings possibly have on hammer velocity,
> right ?
>      But I was feeling congenial that day, and I like
> Andre, so I let it pass.
>      It DID occur to me, though, that the punching
> COULD have a  "psychological effect" on the pianist,
> i.e., create a satisfying "aftertouch experience",
> allowing his/her's mind to focus on the sound, rather
> than what his/her fingers are feeling.
>      As human attewntion can generally only be focused
> on one thing at a time, this could enhance the audible
> enjoyment of playing, making it genuinely SEEM like
> the piano sounds better, which still has merit!
>      And this could compel one to provide a better
> performance, too.
>      Gordon
> --- Richard Moody <remoody@midstatesd.net> wrote:
> > Then how else would you explain the improvemnt of
> > touch and tone?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I didn't hear any improvement in tone much less
> > touch.   I would like to see
> > this demonstrated.  Lets sit together in the
> > audience and you tell me which
> > notes have the special punching that I put in but
> > you don't know where.   Or
> > you play that piano and tell me which notes have the
> > special punching.
> > Until then, this is another bogus hype  to sell
> > something that has no
> > special merit.   But if I am proven wrong I will
> > give $100 to your favorite
> > charity. ---ric
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> > [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
> > Of antares
> > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 4:39 AM
> > To: Pianotech
> > Subject: Re: Oorebeeks Punch'ns
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3-apr-05, at 11:18, Richard Moody wrote:
> >
> > When the key hits the front rail punching, the
> > hammer has long ago left any
> > contact with the key.    How the heck can a front
> > rail punching affect tone
> > after the hammer has hit the string???---ric
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Then how else would you explain the improvemnt of
> > touch and tone?
> >
> >
> > friendly greetings
> > from
> > André Oorebeek
> >
> > www.concertpianoservice.nl
> >
> > "Where music is no harm can be"
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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