Oorebeeks Punch'ns ( my apology )

[gordon stelter]

I am NOT trying at all to discredit Andre ( he's
obviously one of the nicest, most dedicated people on
this list! ) and I did not, unfortunately, read
Birkett's post prior to commenting. I WIll, in the
future, read my messages chronologically - not in
reverse order as Yahoo makes them available. 
    My apologies, and thanks to Dr. Birkett for
applying science to this duscusion!
     G



--- David Love <davidlovepianos@comcast.net> wrote:

> I am reminded of a discussion about rib crowned and
> supported
> soundboards...
> 
> David Love
> davidlovepianos@comcast.net 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
> Behalf Of William R. Monroe
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:39 PM
> To: Pianotech
> Subject: Re: Oorebeeks Punch'ns 
> 
> Gordon,
> 
> did you read Stephen Birkett's post, where he
> observes let-off not
> occuring
> before the key bottoms out, due to flexion in the
> system?  Good, Glad of
> it.
> 
> I am saddened by all the posts trying to discredit
> Andre.  Just because
> we
> don't understand it, doesn't make it less valid. 
> Instead of working so
> hard
> to disprove something with our cynicism, Why not
> work equally hard to
> "show"
> why it works.  Thanks, Dr. Birkett, for your efforts
> at understanding
> this
> phenomenon.
> 
> Do you naysayers really think Andre is a
> bullshitter?  Start paying
> attention.  Start working to improve things.  I feel
> like some of you
> are
> like the Steinways - "we're already perfect, so why
> try and improve?"
> Sorry
> for the rant, but I think Andre deserves a little
> more respect from
> some.
> 
> Thanks for your work Andre.
> 
> Respectfully,
> William R. Monroe
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:55 AM
> Subject: RE: Oorebeeks Punch'ns
> 
> 
> > Richard's point is one which occurred to me after
> > reading of these punchings the first
> time---let-off
> > occurs before the key bottoms out, so what effect
> > could punchings possibly have on hammer velocity,
> > right ?
> >      But I was feeling congenial that day, and I
> like
> > Andre, so I let it pass.
> >      It DID occur to me, though, that the punching
> > COULD have a  "psychological effect" on the
> pianist,
> > i.e., create a satisfying "aftertouch experience",
> > allowing his/her's mind to focus on the sound,
> rather
> > than what his/her fingers are feeling.
> >      As human attewntion can generally only be
> focused
> > on one thing at a time, this could enhance the
> audible
> > enjoyment of playing, making it genuinely SEEM
> like
> > the piano sounds better, which still has merit!
> >      And this could compel one to provide a better
> > performance, too.
> >      Gordon
> > --- Richard Moody <remoody@midstatesd.net> wrote:
> > > Then how else would you explain the improvemnt
> of
> > > touch and tone?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I didn't hear any improvement in tone much less
> > > touch.   I would like to see
> > > this demonstrated.  Lets sit together in the
> > > audience and you tell me which
> > > notes have the special punching that I put in
> but
> > > you don't know where.   Or
> > > you play that piano and tell me which notes have
> the
> > > special punching.
> > > Until then, this is another bogus hype  to sell
> > > something that has no
> > > special merit.   But if I am proven wrong I will
> > > give $100 to your favorite
> > > charity. ---ric
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> > > [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
> > > Of antares
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 4:39 AM
> > > To: Pianotech
> > > Subject: Re: Oorebeeks Punch'ns
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3-apr-05, at 11:18, Richard Moody wrote:
> > >
> > > When the key hits the front rail punching, the
> > > hammer has long ago left any
> > > contact with the key.    How the heck can a
> front
> > > rail punching affect tone
> > > after the hammer has hit the string???---ric
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Then how else would you explain the improvemnt
> of
> > > touch and tone?
> > >
> > >
> > > friendly greetings
> > > from
> > > André Oorebeek
> > >
> > > www.concertpianoservice.nl
> > >
> > > "Where music is no harm can be"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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