David, I would be pleased to come to a convention, if i get an invitation. I tune my new method also at the german convention at Cologne from 4.-7. May. It will be jugded with a tuning done by ETD. regards, Bernhard ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 6:45 AM Subject: Re: Was OnlyPure not P12ths Tunings >I think Bernhard needs to come to a convention and tune his "pure12". > > David Ilvedson > > > > ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- > From: Bernhard Stopper <b98tu@t-online.de> > To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> > Received: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:27:51 +0100 > Subject: Re: Was OnlyPure not P12ths Tunings > > >>Me seems no one has read my post about the NEW approach exactly. > >>I DID NOT CLAIM PATENTING THE PURE TWELFTHS APPRAOCH OR THE PURE >>12s IDEA. >>ANYBODY CAN USE ONE OF THE EXISTING FREE STUFF THAT ALREADY EXIST >>ON THE >>MATTER > >>i did the patent filing for the new method i proposed with the pure 3-note >>combinations of octaves an fifths, and there are four different >>combinations >>of them, (an octave and a outer upper fifth, an octave and a outer lower >>fifth, an octave and a inner upper fifth, and an octave and a inner lower >>fifth) >>in one Pure 12 there are six of this combinations who have those >>2/1,1/1,3/1,2/3,3/2 beat ratios between each other, and 18 combinations >>total that are used in the new approach to tune Pure12. > >>here again the text about the new OnlyPure method, for those jumping on >>the >>thread later: > >>OnlyPure Tuning (Patent pend.) > >>A revolutionary method to tune and produce instruments allows a never >>heard >>purity and clarity > >>The OnlyPure method relates to instruments based on 12 notes per octave >>and >>nonlinear spectrum. (like piano, guitar, electronic instruments but also >>orchestras etc) Within this method it is possible to tune the entire >>instrument by using only pure intervals. For inharmonicity related >>instruments, pure means the state, where the sum of the beats is minimal. > >>The theory behind the OnlyPure method is based upon the "Stopper-Tuning" >>published in euro-piano 3/1988 by german master piano maker Bernhard >>Stopper. A pure twelfth is divided into 19 steps in this tuning, the >>factor >>is the 19th root of 3. > >>Bernhard Stopper has recently discovered, that only in this tuning >>solution, >>all beat ratios of octaves and fifths are symmetric to the interval >>ratios, >>that means they have also ratios of 1/1, 3/1, ~2/1 and ~3/2 and multiples >>of >>them like the interval ratios. > >>Beside the mathematical mysteries, this fact is responsible for the >>phenomene, that in every three-note interval combination consisting of an >>octave and a fifth, the beats are phased out to a pure state in the >>stopper-tuning (there are six such three-note combinations in a perfect >>twelfth who have all a pure state in the Stopper Tuning). > >>The new method works with the phenomen of the symmetric outphasing by >>finding the tones through efficient temperament step combinations of pure >>three-note combinations of octaves and fifths. > >>To the artist, the instrument becomes extremly clean, transparent and >>powerful. The consequence for the aural tuner is, that he can be released >>by >>the out-of-tune intervals and tune the entire instrument with only pure >>intervals. That means much more plasure at work and much more precision of >>the tuning. Although in practice, intervals like major thirds or sixths >>and >>tenths etc. are still useful for control purposes. > >>It is not possible to reach this precision with the usual electronic >>tuning >>devices or the usual two-note aural bearing plan techniques. Since the >>devices >>jugde the pitch and frequency in the frequency >>domain, it is necessary, due to the Heisenberg uncertainity to analyze the >>signal over a relative long time. Tuning those three-note octaves and >>fifths >>combinations aural to pure state, aural pitch setting is as accurate as >>tuning unisons aural, what defintitvely does not work with nowadays ETDs. > >>The ear has the possibility to analyze pitch and beats nearly in realtime. >>Analogous to the function of the stereocilies and the hair cells of the >>cochlea, producing time delayed neuronal signals, Bernhard Stopper >>developped new electronic tuning devices for laptop and PDA. It is >>possible >>to visualize the beats and find the pitch in quasi realtime. > >>There will be also consequences for the understanding of the musical >>theory >>due the discovery of the fractal symmetry of the beat-relations to the >>interval relations in the "stopper-tuning". Since due to the extension of >>the tuning matter from two dimensions to three (and more) dimensions the >>octaves/fifths problem dissappears, the mighty octave must be asked in >>place. > >>The OnlyPure method is patent pending and registered as mark and will be >>licensed to professional tuners and instrument makers which will benefit >>from marketing this revolutionary tuning concept. > > > >>http://www.onlypure.info > > >>_______________________________________________ >>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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