At 06:07 AM 4/15/05, you wrote: >David, > >I would be pleased to come to a convention, if i get an invitation. Why would you need an invitation? Most of us that can go, go at our own expense!!!!!! Avery >I tune my new method also at the german convention at Cologne from 4.-7. May. >It will be jugded with a tuning done by ETD. > >regards, > >Bernhard > >----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org> >Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 6:45 AM >Subject: Re: Was OnlyPure not P12ths Tunings > > >>I think Bernhard needs to come to a convention and tune his "pure12". >> >>David Ilvedson >> >> >> >>----- Original message ---------------------------------------- >>From: Bernhard Stopper <b98tu@t-online.de> >>To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> >>Received: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:27:51 +0100 >>Subject: Re: Was OnlyPure not P12ths Tunings >> >> >>>Me seems no one has read my post about the NEW approach exactly. >> >>>I DID NOT CLAIM PATENTING THE PURE TWELFTHS APPRAOCH OR THE PURE >>>12s IDEA. >>>ANYBODY CAN USE ONE OF THE EXISTING FREE STUFF THAT ALREADY EXIST >>>ON THE >>>MATTER >> >>>i did the patent filing for the new method i proposed with the pure 3-note >>>combinations of octaves an fifths, and there are four different combinations >>>of them, (an octave and a outer upper fifth, an octave and a outer lower >>>fifth, an octave and a inner upper fifth, and an octave and a inner lower >>>fifth) >>>in one Pure 12 there are six of this combinations who have those >>>2/1,1/1,3/1,2/3,3/2 beat ratios between each other, and 18 combinations >>>total that are used in the new approach to tune Pure12. >> >>>here again the text about the new OnlyPure method, for those jumping on the >>>thread later: >> >>>OnlyPure Tuning (Patent pend.) >> >>>A revolutionary method to tune and produce instruments allows a never heard >>>purity and clarity >> >>>The OnlyPure method relates to instruments based on 12 notes per octave and >>>nonlinear spectrum. (like piano, guitar, electronic instruments but also >>>orchestras etc) Within this method it is possible to tune the entire >>>instrument by using only pure intervals. For inharmonicity related >>>instruments, pure means the state, where the sum of the beats is minimal. >> >>>The theory behind the OnlyPure method is based upon the "Stopper-Tuning" >>>published in euro-piano 3/1988 by german master piano maker Bernhard >>>Stopper. A pure twelfth is divided into 19 steps in this tuning, the factor >>>is the 19th root of 3. >> >>>Bernhard Stopper has recently discovered, that only in this tuning solution, >>>all beat ratios of octaves and fifths are symmetric to the interval ratios, >>>that means they have also ratios of 1/1, 3/1, ~2/1 and ~3/2 and multiples >>>of >>>them like the interval ratios. >> >>>Beside the mathematical mysteries, this fact is responsible for the >>>phenomene, that in every three-note interval combination consisting of an >>>octave and a fifth, the beats are phased out to a pure state in the >>>stopper-tuning (there are six such three-note combinations in a perfect >>>twelfth who have all a pure state in the Stopper Tuning). >> >>>The new method works with the phenomen of the symmetric outphasing by >>>finding the tones through efficient temperament step combinations of pure >>>three-note combinations of octaves and fifths. >> >>>To the artist, the instrument becomes extremly clean, transparent and >>>powerful. The consequence for the aural tuner is, that he can be released by >>>the out-of-tune intervals and tune the entire instrument with only pure >>>intervals. That means much more plasure at work and much more precision of >>>the tuning. Although in practice, intervals like major thirds or sixths and >>>tenths etc. are still useful for control purposes. >> >>>It is not possible to reach this precision with the usual electronic tuning >>>devices or the usual two-note aural bearing plan techniques. Since the >>>devices >>>jugde the pitch and frequency in the frequency >>>domain, it is necessary, due to the Heisenberg uncertainity to analyze the >>>signal over a relative long time. Tuning those three-note octaves and fifths >>>combinations aural to pure state, aural pitch setting is as accurate as >>>tuning unisons aural, what defintitvely does not work with nowadays ETDs. >> >>>The ear has the possibility to analyze pitch and beats nearly in realtime. >>>Analogous to the function of the stereocilies and the hair cells of the >>>cochlea, producing time delayed neuronal signals, Bernhard Stopper >>>developped new electronic tuning devices for laptop and PDA. It is possible >>>to visualize the beats and find the pitch in quasi realtime. >> >>>There will be also consequences for the understanding of the musical theory >>>due the discovery of the fractal symmetry of the beat-relations to the >>>interval relations in the "stopper-tuning". Since due to the extension of >>>the tuning matter from two dimensions to three (and more) dimensions the >>>octaves/fifths problem dissappears, the mighty octave must be asked in >>>place. >> >>>The OnlyPure method is patent pending and registered as mark and will be >>>licensed to professional tuners and instrument makers which will benefit >>>from marketing this revolutionary tuning concept. >> >> >> >>>http://www.onlypure.info >> >> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >>_______________________________________________ >>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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