Was OnlyPure not P12ths Tunings

[Ric Brekne]

Bernhard

A few comments.  Number one.  I do not appreciate the insinuation about 
me posting something after you have stated it. This is directly false. 
And anyone who has been reading my P 12ths stuff these past years knows 
that. Indeed... you popped up at least a year after I started writing 
about this stuff making claims about who thought of this first. I dont 
care any more about those claims now then I did then. I could give a 
flying tomatoe. You also started making near slanderous comments about 
Jim Coleman mis-appropriating his perfect 5ths tuning from some other 
european. You seem to totally ignore the fact that people can have 
similiar ideas around the globe without having the slightest knowledge 
of each other.  Accusing someone as you seem to be doing is rather bad 
form IMHO.  Especially when you have absolutely no way of showing any 
such accusations to be true.

Number two. If you do bother to read through all P 12ths posts in the 
past, you will find I have covered this ground well before your 
appearance here on pianotech. <<We>> did not begin discussing the P-12 
ths tuning a year ago... YOU came in on a long standing discussion 
claiming this was your idea... which I simply responded to by letting 
you have your way on the matter... because it didnt matter... doesnt 
matter.  For crimminy sakes.. you mention the major sixth and double 
octave 10th test.... Andre and I were on about this 4 -5 years ago in 
this context... and the darned test is as old as the hills to begin with.

Number three... I will tune a piano any darned old way I want to to 
begin with.  I will use Tune Lab any way I darn well want to. If you 
feel you have some case against me... then by all means try and run it. 

Now I have tried to ignore all these comments about this being all your 
idea these past year, because as I say... I couldnt care less to begin 
with.  But if you are going to start accusing people of stealing others 
ideas as you seem to be.. then I simply have no more time to spend 
responding to your posts.

My description of a P 12ths tuning has been public for a few years 
now... and its free for anyone to use. End of discussion.

Sincerely
Richard Brekne.

Ric,

If you tune the fifths and the octaves one after the other, this is ok.
If you tune the third note from any of the three note combinations together 
with the other two, and measure explicitely for pureness, that relates to 
one method of my patent filing for using in an ETD.
If you have done so already before my patent filing and you have not 
published before, thats your risk. It is still possible to get patented a 
thing, someone other used before and did not talk about.

But i have never read about anything from your post here, that you ever used 
those 3 note combinations tuning/calcuating/measuring that way, that when 
played together it should reach a pure state.

Me seems that this is not the first time, you wrote that you do something 
like i do after i posted it to this list.

Please remember:
When we began discussing P12 here last year, you talked about that you tune 
a perfect twelfth with measuring the third partial of the lower note of a 
perfect twelfth note with the ETD and tune it to the first partial of the 
upper note of the pure twelfth. The you tune a smaller than pure fifth, and 
do a "scott´s quadratic interpolation"

After popping into this discussion, i  wrote how i tune the perfect twelves 
aurally with the help of a major sixth and a double octave+Mthird.

Some weeks later, you posted, "i usually tune the pure twelfth aurally using 
a major sicth and a double octave+MSixth"

be it like it be,
if you think my approach is not new, feel free to raise objection at the 
patent process.

regards,

Bernhard