Was Fish, I see no further utility in the list.

[Greg Newell]

Ron,
         It greatly distresses me to hear you might be leaving us for a 
while. You did once before and now Del has more or less. Seems the greatest 
contributors to the forward thinking in this industry have been pestered 
out of sharing their ideas and contributions. I have long ago filtered the 
individual in question out of any and all posts coming in to my mail box. 
The only time I ever read is when it's quoted from someone else. I never 
seem to be amazed. Nevertheless, please come back! I, for one, have learned 
so very much!! I hope to learn so much more!!!

best,
Greg





At 10:46 PM 2/19/2005, you wrote:
>Its Ron Overs here,
>
>Mr Brekne wrote:
>
>>Yes Ron, actually my words do encourage one and all  (misguided or not) 
>>to explore the world of piano sound to the fullest.
>
>The above remark was in reply to me, Ron Overs, not Ron Nossaman.
>
>I don't accept your spin!  Your words certainly don't encourage me to do 
>anything, apart from getting my 'blood up'. But I have no doubt that this 
>will give you some degree of satisfaction.
>
>Yesterday, I concluded a post with the following.
>
>>Knowledge in our discipline is expanding all the time. We are living at a 
>>time when 300 years of combined thinking has resulted in what we have 
>>come to know as the modern piano. It is essential that this thinking and 
>>evolution should be allowed to continue. Further progress remains 
>>possible as long as we don't let the politics of the currently-successful 
>>ones get in the way. We must always endeavour to work out what is a 
>>worthwhile design feature, and what might be a dead end idea. The black 
>>art of piano design is fascinating, and there remains an ocean of 
>>improvements waiting to be found. As with the evolution of species, many 
>>subspecies will come and go like the Dodo. Not all will be bad ideas, and 
>>some may be worthy of resurrection. But new Dodos will come along as 
>>well. We must use our judgement to establish what we believe to be the 
>>best combination of established practice, past practice and future 
>>possibilities. Getting the three together in the best proportion, when 
>>building a new instrument, can be somewhat akin to jumping off a cliff in 
>>the hope that there is a soft landing at the bottom, and not just rocks.
>>
>>You also have to contend with a multitude of 'technical' opinion, which 
>>sometimes hasn't even been down the 'thinking road' you have taken. So 
>>often this chorus will discount the new idea just because it is different 
>>and 'not the way' their favourite manufacturer does it. It doesn't 
>>necessarily mean that the new idea hasn't got merit, but you have to 
>>somehow carry on through the 'thunderstorm' of disbelief which surrounds you.
>
>In the last paragraph, from yesterday's post (above), my reference to 
>'technical opinion' referred in particular to that of Richard Brekne, who 
>likes to put out his 'Mr nice guy' spin on the surface, while he calls 
>into question the work of any who might dare to work towards a 'better 
>mouse-trap'. Maybe Terry Farrell or Dale Erwin will be his next target 
>(although I think he's already done Dale once before - and I know that Ron 
>N's had a little taste and Del's gone).
>
>Unfortunately, I believe that the pianotech list has become for me a waste 
>of time and effort. In this instance, I am failing to carry on through the 
>'thunderstorm' of disbelief.
>
>Some of us have foregone so much income opportunity to the further study 
>of the instrument, and I sometimes wonder why, since it doesn't seem to be 
>appreciated? As we all know, certain people were much smarter back in 1900.
>
>I am beginning to understand why Del has given this list a wide berth in 
>recent times. A worthy contributor has gone missing thanks in part to the 
>background noise that keeps coming from Brekne, who's banter never lets up.
>
>A large number of Pianotech subscribers have made worthy contributions 
>over the few years that I have taken part. Thank you for your generosity.
>
>I'm getting out of here for a while.
>Feb 20, 2005
>Ron Overs.
>
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>
>OVERS PIANOS - SYDNEY
>   Grand piano manufacturers
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Greg Newell
Greg's piano Forté
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