Pictures of Intereting Sound board designs (Modified by KentSwafford)

David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net
Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:54:22 -0800


What I find interesting about what you've written below is that I see
you (over the last couple of years) moving incrementally toward, for all
practical purposes and based on what I've read on the list, a rib
crowned and supported board.  While you are still drying the panel down
to 5.5% rather than the 6.5% that some of the RC&S people are doing, the
taller, rather than wider, more ribs, fanned perpendicular to the
bridge, cut-off bars, treble fish, is what I see in the RC&S designs.
Having heard your boards and having heard others report on what they
hear, it would seem, at least on the surface, that rib versus
compression crowning is not a significant element in convincing people
about the authenticity of what they are hearing.  Rather, it would
appear, it is some other confluence of factors: panel thickness,
shaping, grain angle, overall rib design and level of support, control
of moisture content; etc., the usual stuff.  Since those who have heard
your pianos were not struck by anything unusual in their tonal output,
would you then go so far as to say that RC&S, CC, RC&CC probably doesn't
much matter?  At least in the short term?  How each might hold up in the
long term and the consistency with which each can be produced, and,
moreover, the choices one makes about their own design elements might
yet be another matter.  But from what is written below, it sounds as if
tonally, you are leaning toward what many of the RC&S designers are
advocating.  Do I read that correctly?

David Love
davidlovepianos@comcast.net 

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From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
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Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 5:08 PM
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Subject: Pictures of Intereting Sound board designs (Modified by
KentSwafford)

List
  Just sharing some interesting stuff. What I'm finding out over time 
is that the pianos I like the sound of most for their sustain ,power & 
overall clarity are those that have taller than wide ribs & many. 
Enclosed are the picture of a samll Elburn 45"upright. It sounds 
amazing . If I was to build a small piano I'd copy this design. It's 
WAY better than 95% of those  I hear. It Has 11 ribs & a funky little 
bridge patch for two tenor wrapped strings. The break is good.
   Hey Stwy ms have ten ribs Stwy A-3' Have 12 Also the ribs are not 
perpendicular to the panel grain.
  I love Ludwigs. Great pianos. The Big Fat 1905 victorian Ludwig in 
the ornate case blew me away with the first note. Sustain to spare .It 
has 12  Taller ribs  & nice cutoff bars. One can almost imagine a 
teardrop shape
     The other was a piano the owner said was to good to junk. An 
Emerson cut down & garden -ized. Still Interesting sound with strange 
grain angle & rib config. But taller ribs and many. Panel grain 
opposite of normal. The Last is a Stwy Long A in the redisign process. 
I added one more rib in the treble & fanned the treble ribs to be more 
perpendicular to the Bridge.
  The nice part about this is that there is a rib every 6 unison 
patches & 3 ribs under the killer octave instead of 2. I'm planning to 
have the A in Kansas City in June or My D. Maybe both.
  Terry Farrel made me the beautiful Cut off bar for this job. Thanks 
Terry.
  Dale
   
Erwins Pianos Restorations
4721 Parker Rd.
Modesto, Ca 95357
209-577-8397
Rebuilt Steinway , Mason &Hamlin Sales
www.Erwinspiano.com

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