What I find interesting about what you've written below is that I see you (over the last couple of years) moving incrementally toward, for all practical purposes and based on what I've read on the list, a rib crowned and supported board. While you are still drying the panel down to 5.5% rather than the 6.5% that some of the RC&S people are doing, the taller, rather than wider, more ribs, fanned perpendicular to the bridge, cut-off bars, treble fish, is what I see in the RC&S designs. Having heard your boards and having heard others report on what they hear, it would seem, at least on the surface, that rib versus compression crowning is not a significant element in convincing people about the authenticity of what they are hearing. Rather, it would appear, it is some other confluence of factors: panel thickness, shaping, grain angle, overall rib design and level of support, control of moisture content; etc., the usual stuff. Since those who have heard your pianos were not struck by anything unusual in their tonal output, would you then go so far as to say that RC&S, CC, RC&CC probably doesn't much matter? At least in the short term? How each might hold up in the long term and the consistency with which each can be produced, and, moreover, the choices one makes about their own design elements might yet be another matter. But from what is written below, it sounds as if tonally, you are leaning toward what many of the RC&S designers are advocating. Do I read that correctly? David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Erwinspiano@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 5:08 PM To: files@ptg.org Subject: Pictures of Intereting Sound board designs (Modified by KentSwafford) List Just sharing some interesting stuff. What I'm finding out over time is that the pianos I like the sound of most for their sustain ,power & overall clarity are those that have taller than wide ribs & many. Enclosed are the picture of a samll Elburn 45"upright. It sounds amazing . If I was to build a small piano I'd copy this design. It's WAY better than 95% of those I hear. It Has 11 ribs & a funky little bridge patch for two tenor wrapped strings. The break is good. Hey Stwy ms have ten ribs Stwy A-3' Have 12 Also the ribs are not perpendicular to the panel grain. I love Ludwigs. Great pianos. The Big Fat 1905 victorian Ludwig in the ornate case blew me away with the first note. Sustain to spare .It has 12 Taller ribs & nice cutoff bars. One can almost imagine a teardrop shape The other was a piano the owner said was to good to junk. An Emerson cut down & garden -ized. Still Interesting sound with strange grain angle & rib config. But taller ribs and many. Panel grain opposite of normal. The Last is a Stwy Long A in the redisign process. I added one more rib in the treble & fanned the treble ribs to be more perpendicular to the Bridge. The nice part about this is that there is a rib every 6 unison patches & 3 ribs under the killer octave instead of 2. I'm planning to have the A in Kansas City in June or My D. Maybe both. Terry Farrel made me the beautiful Cut off bar for this job. Thanks Terry. Dale Erwins Pianos Restorations 4721 Parker Rd. Modesto, Ca 95357 209-577-8397 Rebuilt Steinway , Mason &Hamlin Sales www.Erwinspiano.com [Photos at:] http://tinyurl.com/3jc6b http://tinyurl.com/4xvks http://tinyurl.com/6mg8v http://tinyurl.com/4mrq4 http://tinyurl.com/488bk http://tinyurl.com/6bz6a http://tinyurl.com/5tvoq [Direct ptg,org URLs] https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/5f/2b/c4/f2/DSCN4978.JPG https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/dc/43/c2/47/DSCN4979.JPG https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/e1/ec/16/4c/DSCN4971.JPG https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/26/7e/16/93/DSCN4977.JPG https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/62/01/3d/55/DSCN4974.JPG https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/6f/d5/7a/28/DSCN4973.JPG https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/57/88/95/8f/DSCN4980.JPG _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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