---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Ahem... I got a call from a friend, who told me about this thread, So, I decided to 'hop on the bandwagon' and let you all know what I=20 think about what was/is being said. As most of you know from all the e-mails I sent to this list over the=20 years, I have come into contact with Wurzen felt through a Mr. Claus=20 who at the time worked for Renner as a technician. I knew Mr. Claus from earlier visits to Renner, Stuttgart, because he=20 was the first person I had ever met before who was able to fulfill my=20 wishes by making light weight Steinway hammer copies for me. At the local piano supply store in Amsterdam they had decided I was a=20 nuisance and made me feel totally ridiculous when I asked them for this=20= specific item. At Steinway Hamburg they told me that "what I was=20 looking for did not exist, and that it would be much better to buy a=20 brand new Steinway" (and decided I was a nuisance). So I was forced to look for what I wanted at the source, which was/is=20 Renner, because they make the Steinway parts for "Hamburg". Apparently, the people at Renner are able to listen better to wishes=20 and questions coming from 'weird technicians'. So, during one of those visits I took along one of those buttery soft=20 original Steinway hammers covered with 'Weickert Filz', the forbearer=20 of Wurzen felt, and I asked Mr. Claus why, for heavens sake, we could=20 not have back that gorgeous felt of the past, to which Mr. Claus=20 answered, with a smile, that from now on, they (Renner) could provide=20 customers with this new/old felt. This was, I think, in 1990 or 1991 and I was not the first one to hear=20= this news (of course not, because I was, and am, just a free lance=20 piano technician, and not a member of an important factory). So, of course, Steinway Hamburg already had gone back to=20 Weickert/Wurzen felt, and so had others, among which Yamaha, who=20 immediately bought this new Wurzen felt for their CFIII-S. Nevertheless, I was there, and I was among the early birds. Slowly, over the years, the new Wurzen felt got better and better, and=20= I became more and more enthusiastic and bought all my hammers from=20 Renner, because at the time, Renner was the only hammer maker using=20 Wurzen felt. Because I was so happy with my Renner Wurzen A hammers, I obviously=20 wrote about them on the list, and why not? At the time I did know nothing about what Americans used for a piano=20 hammer, and soon I noticed that many US techs (list subscribers) had=20 complaints about their so called "Renner Blues", because they thought=20 that these hammers were too hard and un-giving. I can be a pretty naive guy, so unfortunately I got into a discussion=20 on this list about hammers. (Actually, almost all my e-mails to this=20 list were/are about hammers, felt and voicing) I did not know what kind of hammers those Renner Blues hammers were,=20 and I remember clearly that I said so. I also told the colleagues on this list many times, that if they were=20 unhappy about their hammers, they should do something about it because=20= I certainly was/am not able to help them. I have in fact stated that many times over and over again and I now=20 understand, and know for a fact, that those Renner Blues were regular=20 Wurzen hammers, the same ones Samick (and others) had at the time. So of course, there was a difference between the hammers I spoke of,=20 and the hammers you Americans receive(d) over there. About two years ago, I got into contact with the director/owner of the=20= Wurzen factory, Mr. J. Brand. Mr. Brand invited me and my business partner to come for a visit, and=20 he very genereously gave us about 7 hours ! of his time. During that visit, we all got very enthusiastic about future piano=20 related projects and it was then that we asked him to first make for us=20= a distinct improvement of the punchings Schimmel already had used=20 silently for years. We also talked about many other promising and very=20= important felt items we could develop with mutual efforts, felt items=20 we now see on the market, or will see on the market in the near future. btw, for those who may be after my public humiliation... I never=20 claimed that I have invented the white front punchings... They have=20 been around already for much longer you know... I have found them a long time ago already in very old French piano's. The front punching I launched, however, are my babies, because they are=20= the very first conical Wurzen felt punchings ever. Besides, Schimmel may have had non-conical front punchings for years,=20 they never ever mentioned them, while I tested these amazing new felt=20 punchings and started to write about it immediately. Nowadays, the new conical front punchings are a very hot item with=20 outstanding results. (Only real dumbo's will continue to sputter their tiny mutterings, and=20= will always find a way to tear off a little wing here and there.....) Then, at about the same time, there was the introduction of the AA=20 Wurzen felt, and it was then that I got into contact with Mr. Negron of=20= Ronsen hammers. It was I who introduced mr. Negron to this Wurzen felt, and, because he=20= obviously makes the very best American hammers, so many of you now also=20= buy Ronsen's Wurzen hammers. After all what has happened, and after all the energy and inspiration I=20= have put into this felt issue, I get very tired and especially very=20 un-inspired when I read that - "we have now nothing new or magical that=20= we haven't had access to for years" . That is quite untrue... Bringing back the old and high quality "Weickert Filz" through years=20 and years of research, money investment and raw energy is a MAJOR score=20= for Mr. Brand. Bringing the conical Wurzen punching (now made of a superior felt=20 quality!!) into existence, and writing an article for the PTG Journal=20 has cost me an incredible amount of energy but has given me at the same=20= time much inspiration and renewed vigor. Would any of you dare to suggest that the AA Wurzen hammer lovers and=20 the conical front punching lovers are liars? I would certainly not do that... What has happened IS new and IS magical, and it was not there 10 years=20= ago. A. Oorebeek On 22-jun-05, at 1:27, Greg Newell wrote: > I guess my unstated point was that we have now nothing new or magical=20= > that we haven't had access to for years. > > Greg Newell > > > At 05:22 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote: >> That's my understanding. How you press them and the amount of heat=20= >> used >> will make a difference in how they sound and how they need to be >> treated. >> >> David Love >> davidlovepianos@comcast.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On >> Behalf Of Greg Newell >> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:35 PM >> To: pianotech@ptg.org >> Subject: Wurzen felt >> >> List, >> I recently attended the "Renner All Stars" class at the >> national >> convention. There I had the opportunity to ask for opinions on the = new >> Wurzen felt. It was my impression from this list that the Wurzen felt >> was >> only available from Ray Negron at Ronson hammers in these United=20 >> States. >> >> Rick Baldassin insisted that Renner Blues have used Wurzen felt for=20= >> over >> a >> decade. Any comments? >> >> Greg Newell >> Greg's piano Fort=E9 >> mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 7457 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/e1/e6/52/8d/attachment.bin ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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