---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Ric A well reasoned & dispassioante post I wholeheartedly agree with. I keep saying it ,but if a hammer that requires only a little stiffening up, speaking from starting on the soft side, doesn't require thick but only very thin dilutions of nitro cellulose lacquer to coat the fibers & stiffen the hammer. This mild treatment does not render the fibers unresielent nor ruined but regulates the resilience of the fiber The truly soft hammer requires denser & multiple lacquer solutions. If it takes this technique to get it speak then the felt is poor or pressed wrong or both. & I'll let you'all draw your own conclusions on that one. However they can sound great...... for a while & I beleive in the end, possibly harder to manage. That being said I've worked on hammers like this that were quite mangeable. Ray at Ronsen pointed out the one brand of felt has good tensioning qualities but not much compression. A great felt has both. SO the lacquer is adding an artificial component of compression.....,IMO that is. Also in this only a little bit soft case, straight acetone washed into the hammer can have a mild stiffening affect by shrinkage & leaves no residue. Certainly a harmless first step . A Rule of thumb in voicing is always use the least innocuos step first & do test notes. Dale Erwin Hi Andre My own choice is cellulose lacquer. Its one of the softest, and springiest lacquers available. It always struck me that if one first was too use lacquer, then a lacquer with its own kind of resiliency was a sensible choice. Dries fast, results show themselves in about an hour and cures completely in a day or two (at least in the amounts used in hammer doping). That said.. Stan wood has observed that lacquers and other hardening agents tend to coat the fibers of hammer felt making them brittle and essentially destroying their resilient capabilities. So a chemical that simply causes the fibers to tension up a bit...(shrinking) without any other affect would perhaps be the ideal. Haven't tried any such thing yet... shying from chemicals as I do, thou I have bumped into a bit of reading on the subject. As for colloduium .... grin... you are wrong about its primary benefit Andre ! In reality that is its ability to make all future use of mind expanding drugs totally redundant !! :) Oh.... and Terry... yep.. some folks are out there hardening Yamaha hammers. Usually because they have been devastated by softening agents, over steamed, or just plain needled to death. Strikes me that in spite of all the ingenious alternative methods our American allies have for doing things differently... too many over there have forgotten, put aside, or otherwise ignored developing and maintaining needling skills. No reflection on those who can mind you. One striking difference between voicing problems one runs into here in Europe visa vi those in America (based on personal experience) is that in America you find tons of cases of hammers mauled one way or the other by the uninitiated tech. Where as in Europe... the vast majority of voicing problems have their basis simply from a lack of voicing maintenance done. Cheers RicB ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/c0/11/02/14/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
This PTG archive page provided courtesy of Moy Piano Service, LLC