[Fwd: Re: Re voicing hammers/hardening]

Ric Brekne ricbrek@broadpark.no
Sun, 15 May 2005 21:58:35 +0200


Richard Brekne wrote:

> Hi Michael.
>
> 5 mm is really quite a long ways away for setoff (letoff). If you have 
> soft hammers from the get go, you are going to exhasperate the problem 
> rather big time with such a distance. By the sounds of it the whole 
> piano is in trouble so I am not really sure what to tell you... 
> grin... I am tempted to suggest thumbtacks... no no no no.. I didnt 
> say that !
>
> Andres Collidin is just as fast as Cellulose.  If you have Cellulose 
> then perhaps thats what handy.  Mix with 8 parts Lynol or whatever 
> Cellulose thinner you use.  Start out with 5-6 small drops on the 
> crown of each hammer and wait until you get a result. This will set up 
> fast and is reversable. If you soak the shoulders with loads of 
> mixture, then you will have to wait over nite and whatever you get is 
> much less reversable.  In all cases of useing lack, my personal 
> preference is always just a few small drops on the surface.  This most 
> closely simulates the end result with  needling, where the shoulders 
> are to become gradually softer, having released their tension towards 
> the crown.  Personal preference well and mark.  But in your case.. 
> this is also the fastest.  You should be able to get a usable degree 
> of hardness without over doing it in a couple hour time at worst.  The 
> only other type of hardener I ever had any hankering for was 
> Shellack... or spirit lack as its often called.  It also dries very 
> fast but does leave a telltail stain.  I am not a fan of Acetone with 
> anything. Again, personal preference.
>
> Cheers.
>
> RicB
>
> Michael Gamble wrote:
>
>> Hello Rik & Andre and List
>> I am trying to establish the fastest method of hardening the hammers 
>> of this old upright German "Katz" which is used on stage in "Bartered 
>> Bride". Right now we are still in rehearsal and it is very soft 
>> sounding. I have regulated the touch and the set-off to bring the 
>> hammers within about 5mm from the strings - which is pushing my luck 
>> somewhat as a lot of the butt springs are broken! Even so it is very 
>> soft-sounding. At the moment we are countering this to a degree by 
>> removing the front panel and kneeboard. Fortunately there's a music 
>> desk on the fall. I have the following potions :-) Apsco #425  Hammer 
>> Felt Reinforcer (that'll take you back a few years?). Very pungent 
>> smell. I also have  a small can of Humbrol Nitrate Cellulose Dope - 
>> this is usually used to taughten the paper tissue skin applied to 
>> model aircraft. (great fun!) The Apsco stuff can, I believe, be 
>> thinned down using Acetone (nail varnish remover - more smelly 
>> stuff!) as required. Given the scenario and with the action on its 
>> front (hammers "up") what, in your opinion is the best, fastest and 
>> most effective way to harden those hammers? :-)
>>

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