SORRY...for the repost but I forgot to add my name! Michael, There are plenty of tuners in the USA who think PTG is "cliquey". Perhaps you don't understand the chip tuning from our angle...most of us don't bring pianos up a little at a time. Bring it up and bring it up again...however many times it takes...US tuners, in general, don't believe in a little at time is beneficial in the least bit....so you're English training is showing...;-] NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT>>>>imho. I think we can get an idea of what PTA's work life is like by their website. Predominately on the first page is a definition of straight-strung vs. overstrung and overdampers vs. underdampers. I don't think anywhere else in the world is that a front page item. I can't really remember it being discussed. My post about PTA discussing nothing but birdcages seems about right. You would think that they wouldn't have anymore birdcages in England. I thought they sent them all to us to dispose of....;-] David Ilvedson, RPT ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "Michael Gamble" <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk> To: pianotuna@yahoo.com, Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: 10/7/2005 2:07:13 PM Subject: RE: Piano Tuners' Association >I agree, Don. I knew they existed many years ago when they tried to get me >to join them. Even then I could think up no reason to do so - they were (and >presumably still are) so "cliquey". Chipping up a piano doesn't worry me one >iota - I did it to my S&S 'A' when I re-strung it just last month. About >fifteen years ago I voluntarily took up a place on a "hammer hanging course" >at Heckschers in London - one of a series of courses they (Heckschers) were >promoting and was the only independent tech there. The series, >unfortunately, died the death. The PTA made much of this course in their >newsletter, though they had, so far as I know, no hand in its preparation. >It was my presence that caused them to send me this news-letter and invite >me to join the PTA. I have no regrets.... >Regards from a dark Downland Village >Michael G.(UK) >-----Original Message----- >From: Don [mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com] >Sent: 07 October 2005 17:00 >To: Michael Gamble >Subject: RE: Piano Tuners' Association >Hi Michael, >I agree with you--however they can be as "exclusive" >as they wish. If you are a member--take it up with >them. If not--what the heck--let them sink (or swim). >I understand that part of the "test" there is doing a >"chip tuning" which 99% of all tuners in North America >would never do i.e. there would be darn few members! >--- Michael Gamble <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk> >wrote: >> Don - That sounds like the "Tech Exclusion Zone"! >> To what pupose? And who benefits? >> Regards from Sunny Sussex >> Michael G.(UK) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Don [mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com] >> Sent: 07 October 2005 06:32 >> To: Pianotech >> Subject: RE: Piano Tuners' Association >> >> Hi Michael, >> >> I suppose you have heard of PTG-L as well--but you >> can't join it--unless >> you are a member of PTG. It was clear from the >> comments about the UK >> listserv that it is "members only". >> >> At 07:56 AM 10/7/2005 +0100, you wrote: >> > I agree Avery. There's just this >> statement out of the blue. >> >The Piano Tuner's Association (of Great >> Britain?) claim to have an >> >equivalent of the List. I have never come across it >> or even been guided >> >gently towards it as I was towards the List. I did >> not know it existed. Now >> >we hear it is extant.. But that's all. >> Regards Michael G.(UK) >> > From: Avery Todd >> [mailto:avery1@houston.rr.com] >> > Sent: 06 October 2005 22:24 >> > To: Pianotech >> > Subject: Re: Piano Tuners' Association >> ?????? >> > >> > Avery >> > >> > At 12:42 PM 10/6/05, you wrote: >> > >> > Where is the PTA version of Pianotech then?? >> > >> > Ric No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG >> >Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: >> 267.11.13/123 - Release >> >Date: 10/6/2005 >> >> Regards, >> Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. >> Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat >> >> mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com >> http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ >> >> 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK, S4S 5G7 >> 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner >> >> >> >> >> >Regards, >Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. >3004 Grant Rd, Regina, SK, S4S 5G7 >Tuner for the Saskatchewan Centre of the Arts >http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ > >__________________________________ >Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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