Could all future Off Topic posts please be labled as such? Thanks, Steve On Sep 4, 2005, at 9:15 PM, gordon stelter wrote: > Thanks Alan, > I knew that post would tick some folks off. But > because man, unlike nature, has free will I would say > God ALLOWED 9/11 to occur, but did not cause it. > 9/11 was evil human free will at work. > But He both caused and allowed the hurricane. Not > necessarily consciously, though. Some things, like > water freezing at 32F, occur as part of God's > pre-determined natural laws regulating the universe. > Our messing up the atmosphere may have instigated this > automatically, by God's law, as a bug bite causes > swelling, for example. That's the kind of "cause" I > was referring to. Not necessarily "smiting" N.O. > because of "Bourbon Street" > ( Though it certainly COULD be that, too! ) > Whatever ones' theological bent, or lack thereof, > this will certainly be cause for reflection, which can > only do us good. At this time, particularly. > Thump > > P.S. No need to tell me to shut up. I'm done with this > subject. > > --- Alan Barnard <tune4u@earthlink.net> wrote: > > >> Ouchie, ouchie ... emotions are running so high, >> ya'll. >> >> Chicago recovered and was much stronger and improved >> after total >> destruction. San Francisco did the same, as have >> many great cities around >> the world. As horrible as it is for the lives of so >> many ... let's have >> some of that old fashioned charity and faith. >> >> Stump, for what it's worth, I agree with your post >> below except for one >> important word. remove "cause" insert "allow". >> >> People are responding. This nation and her poeople >> still have greatness at >> their core. The naybobs and blame-throwers will be >> proved wrong or >> irrelevant. >> >> Let's get involved where we can, in positive ways, >> and watch the miracle >> unfold as it surely will. >> >> Alan Barnard >> Salem, Missouri >> >> >> >>> [Original Message] >>> From: gordon stelter <lclgcnp@yahoo.com> >>> To: <deanmay@pianorebuilders.com>; Pianotech >>> >> <pianotech@ptg.org> >> >>> Date: 09/04/2005 11:04:15 AM >>> Subject: RE: Knee JERK >>> >>> If we truly knew and obeyed God, the blessings >>> >> would >> >>> come naturally. Are you suggesting that >>> >> omniscient, >> >>> omnipotent God was somehow unaware of this >>> >> hurricane, >> >>> or did not cause it to happen? >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> >>>> life, because he truly is... stupid. God please >>>> Bless our great nation, >>>> because we need it. >>>> >>>> Lance Lafargue, RPT >>>> Classical American >>>> Living 17 ft above sea level, but still capable >>>> >> of >> >>>> seeing beyond my own >>>> ass >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ____________________________________________________ >> >>> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home >>> >> page >> >>> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pianotech list info: >>> >> https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pianotech list info: >> https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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