SAT Scores on Tuning Exam

[David Ilvedson]

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Again...you can't pass the PTG tuning test with a SAT III unless you ca=
n pass the 2 octave temperment area section.  I think Joe, the bellicos=
e, thought I was saying anyone could pass the test with a SAT at 100%, =
which of course I never said. 
David I.




Original message
From: "Andrew and Rebeca Anderson" 
To: Pianotech 
Received: 9/13/2005 5:08:25 AM
Subject: Re: SAT Scores on Tuning Exam


Joe,
Have you used a verituner?  I've disagreed with it before and tried re-=
tuning aurally only to discover that it had made the best compromise av=
ailable from the beast in front of me.  It works with the partials of e=
ach note it tunes as opposed to using only the partials of three sample=
d notes from the piano.  You can choose the degree of stretch you want =
to use.  

The tolerances in the portion you can use your ETD on are quite generou=
s.  The aural section is tight, but you can't use your ETD there anyway=
 and that is the mental muscle you have to develop.  The Verituners mea=
sured tuning and detune functions are quite useful to practice doing te=
mperaments with.

While I'm no CTE, I have checked it out at my leisure and have been qui=
te satisfied with what it does.

Andrew
At 11:44 PM 9/12/2005, you wrote:

So I just checked with Michael Kimbell, our San Francisco CTE and tunin=
=3D
g examiner and he concurred with my statement.   
David ,
Then Michael is on Drugs, IMO. 
The simple fact remains, that the Test Instrument is tuned Aurally, by =
at least Three tuners, one of which must be a CTE. Since the piano is t=
uned Aurally, there is no way in hell, the SAT will reproduce this! I'm=
 sure if you check with Paul Brown, he'll tell you that exams, of recor=
d, do not bear out this B.S.! As for the claims of Reyburn and Veritune=
r...That smatters of the "Diaphramatic Soundboard" B.S. that we so blat=
antly poo poo, on this list almost every day. Sales Hype, IMO.
Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
Captain, Tool Police
Squares R I

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