Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?

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Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:46:08 -0700


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Is this a studio or grand?

David I.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William R. Monroe" <pianotech@a440piano.net>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?


> Matthew,
>
> As I said before, I'd repin in this situation.  I would also opt for 
> taking
> it to the shop - depending on what kind of drive time you would face.  It
> certainly could be done in the home, but my experience is that these 
> things
> often take more time than you expect, and further, especially as you are
> getting the hang of the procedure, it might be nice to not have the client
> looking over your shoulder.
>
> I'd check each flange, repinning to get each one at a consistent swing
> number.  I know some techs will opt for obtaining a specific level of
> friction (6 grams, 7 grams, graduating, etc.).  I don't know that either
> method is superior to the other provided you understand the process and 
> what
> each is telling you - e.g. 7 swings on a bass hammer will have more 
> friction
> at the pinning than 7 swings on a treble hammer - all other things being
> equal.
>
> What is the make of the piano BTW?  Curiosity..........
>
> Respectfully,
> William R. Monroe
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Matthew Todd" <toddpianoworks@yahoo.com>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?
>
>
>> Some of the worst hammers there don't swing at all.  About six of them 
>> are
> that bad, and others have between one to two.  There are some others that
> "seem" to be fine.  I say "seem" because I tested their piano by playing 
> it
> first, finding the really bad ones, then taking the action out and really
> examining them to pinpoint the problem.
>>
>> Matthew
>> "William R. Monroe" <pianotech@a440piano.net> wrote:
>> Hi Matthew,
>>
>> You wrote: "Could this just be related to swelling?"
>>
>> Only you can tell us. Is it humid there now? Does it get dry in the
>> winter, and then, are the hammer centers more free? You'll need to do 
>> some
>> analyzing yourself and determine what is your best solution. If the
> hammers
>> are really seized up (less than a couple swings), I'd be comfortable
> saying
>> that it's not just humidity, and opt for repinning. Of course, if the
>> bushings are all full of nastys, maybe needs new bushings?
>>
>> Once you've determined the cause of the problem, then determine the
> solution
>> that works for you and your client.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> William R. Monroe
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Matthew Todd"
>> To: "Pianotech"
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?
>>
>>
>> > I believe I will take the action home with me. These are hammer 
>> > centers.
>> The hammers are very tight to move! Could this just be related to
> swelling?
>> >
>> > This is not a Steinway. I don't believe I have the Mannino, but I do
> have
>> a set I ordered from Schaff, and a good center pin punch.
>> >
>> > Matthew
>> >
>> > J Patrick Draine wrote:
>> > Matthew,
>> > If you are already skilled & speedy at repinning action parts, go for
>> > it. But it sounds like you aren't so ... bring the action to your
>> > shop. It will probably take you more than 4 hours (are these hammer
>> > centers? jack centers? damper lever centers??).
>> > Why are you repinning? Parts frozen up? Are treatment with Protec
>> > CPL, or sizing the bushings with an alcohol/water solution, viable
>> > alternative solutions?
>> > Is this a Steinway?? If so, it's likely you're dealing with
>> > verdigris, and repinning is seldom the correct remedy (parts
>> > replacement is best).
>> > Give us more details and we'll be able to give more precise advice.
>> > Do you have appropriate tools? The Mannino broaches, a quality center
>> > pin punch, etc?
>> > Patrick Draine
>> >
>> > On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Matthew Todd wrote:
>> >
>> > > I will be undergoing a repinning project on a client's grand. The
>> > > "G" Piano Works guide says it takes 4 hours. Is it appropiate to
>> > > do this project in the client's home, or do I need to take the
>> > > action with me and do it in the shop? If I take the action with
>> > > me, that brings up another question. If it's raining, how do you
>> > > all prepare and protect the grand action??
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