You watch Martha too?...;-] David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, California ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "Dean May" <deanmay@pianorebuilders.com> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: 2/9/2006 7:24:07 AM Subject: RE: What's a fair price to charge for tuning a piano >>>NO. They can't. Why do you keep spreading this BS??????? >>>Avery Todd >Because we are waist deep in it and I am trying to clear a path. >Did you notice that Martha Stewart went to jail? It was not for insider >trading- which itself is arguably a non-crime. It was not for anything >related to insider trading. She was acquitted of all those charges. But you >see, when federal prosecutors come after you they will get a conviction. >Their political careers depend on their conviction rates and they have the >full resources of the Justice Department- money is no object to them >especially on a high profile case. Martha Stewart was convicted for being >misleading to the investigators that were trying to crucify her. She was not >being deposed nor was she under oath at the time. Neither was she convicted >of anything that she was misleading to them about. They were trying to >crucify her for charges she was acquitted of and she was being >uncooperative. For this she is now a federal felon. >Now read through the list again of what is forbidden. I submit to you that >it would be pretty easy for a zealous federal prosecutor to bring charges >against us for any number of things listed here. >k) Current or future prices >People post their current and future prices here all the time >l) What constitutes a fair profit or margin level >We are always encouraging people to not charge less than what they are >worth. >m) Possible increases or decreases in prices >o) Pricing procedures >p)Cash discounts >q) Credit discounts >r) Control of sales >s) Allocation of markets >t) Refusal to deal with a firm because of its pricing or distribution >practices >We do this kind of stuff all the time. Be careful, you may follow in >Martha's steps. >u) Whether or not the pricing practices of any industry member are unethical >or constitute an unfair trade practice >Did you miss the exchange I had with Susan a few months ago? And that was >not isolated. The unethical charge related to pricing frequently comes up on >this list. And it should. >I could bring up just about anything on the list and go through the archives >and find an example of how we have violated it. But it is this law that is >immoral, not our technical violation of it. For the Federales to criminalize >our discussions on this list is over the top, it is tyranny. >Dean >Dean May cell 812.239.3359 >PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272 >Terre Haute IN 47802 >> >>I don't know if it applies to this list (but it is run by the PTG), but we >>should all be aware of the anti-trust guidelines that we must follow: >> >>http://www.ptg.org/members/resources-antiTrustGuidelines.php (members area >>only) >> >>There must be no discussions at association meetings that may in any way >>tend to: a) Raise, lower, or stabilize prices or fees, b) Regulate >>production levels or schedules, c) Affect the availability of products or >>services, d) Affect allocation of markets, territories, customers, or >>patients, e) Encourage boycotts or exclusions of products or services, f) >>Foster unfair practices involving advertising, merchandising, >>standardization, certification or accreditation, g) Encourage anyone to >>refrain from competing, h) Limit or exclude anyone from manufacture, sale, >>or practice, i) Result in illegal brokerage or rebates, j) Affect improper >>reciprocity in dealing, k) Current or future prices, l) What constitutes a >>fair profit or margin level, m) Possible increases or decreases in prices, >>n) Standardization or stabilization of prices, o) Pricing procedures, p) >>Cash discounts, q) Credit discounts, r) Control of sales, s) Allocation of >>markets, t) Refusal to deal with a firm because of its pricing or >>distribution practices, u) Whether or not the pricing practices of any >>industry member are unethical or constitute an unfair trade practice, v) >>Terms or conditions of sale, w) Market share, x) Customer or supplier >>classification, allocation or selection, y) Decisions to quote or not to >>quote, z) Sales territories. >> >>--Cy-- >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >_______________________________________________ >Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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