As a laid on the couch (on my left side) during the last half of my pregnancy, I marveled as I watched her make pie crust dough in the Cuisinart--no mess, done in a minute. I probably saw that episode a half dozen times, but I could never get it to work out. I was highly suspicious. I'll bet that prosecutor had same same results--that's what she went to jail for. Barbara Richmond, RPT still suspicious of how easily some people level strings... :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> To: <deanmay@pianorebuilders.com>; <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: RE: What's a fair price to charge for tuning a piano > You watch Martha too?...;-] > > David Ilvedson, RPT > Pacifica, California > > > > ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- > From: "Dean May" <deanmay@pianorebuilders.com> > To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org> > Received: 2/9/2006 7:24:07 AM > Subject: RE: What's a fair price to charge for tuning a piano > > >>>>NO. They can't. Why do you keep spreading this BS??????? >>>>Avery Todd > >>Because we are waist deep in it and I am trying to clear a path. > >>Did you notice that Martha Stewart went to jail? It was not for insider >>trading- which itself is arguably a non-crime. It was not for anything >>related to insider trading. She was acquitted of all those charges. But >>you >>see, when federal prosecutors come after you they will get a conviction. >>Their political careers depend on their conviction rates and they have the >>full resources of the Justice Department- money is no object to them >>especially on a high profile case. Martha Stewart was convicted for being >>misleading to the investigators that were trying to crucify her. She was >>not >>being deposed nor was she under oath at the time. Neither was she >>convicted >>of anything that she was misleading to them about. They were trying to >>crucify her for charges she was acquitted of and she was being >>uncooperative. For this she is now a federal felon. > >>Now read through the list again of what is forbidden. I submit to you that >>it would be pretty easy for a zealous federal prosecutor to bring charges >>against us for any number of things listed here. > >>k) Current or future prices > >>People post their current and future prices here all the time > >>l) What constitutes a fair profit or margin level > >>We are always encouraging people to not charge less than what they are >>worth. > >>m) Possible increases or decreases in prices >>o) Pricing procedures >>p)Cash discounts >>q) Credit discounts >>r) Control of sales >>s) Allocation of markets >>t) Refusal to deal with a firm because of its pricing or distribution >>practices > >>We do this kind of stuff all the time. Be careful, you may follow in >>Martha's steps. > >>u) Whether or not the pricing practices of any industry member are >>unethical >>or constitute an unfair trade practice > >>Did you miss the exchange I had with Susan a few months ago? And that was >>not isolated. The unethical charge related to pricing frequently comes up >>on >>this list. And it should. > > >>I could bring up just about anything on the list and go through the >>archives >>and find an example of how we have violated it. But it is this law that is >>immoral, not our technical violation of it. For the Federales to >>criminalize >>our discussions on this list is over the top, it is tyranny. > > > >>Dean >>Dean May cell 812.239.3359 >>PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272 >>Terre Haute IN 47802 > >>> >>>I don't know if it applies to this list (but it is run by the PTG), but >>>we >>>should all be aware of the anti-trust guidelines that we must follow: >>> >>>http://www.ptg.org/members/resources-antiTrustGuidelines.php (members >>>area >>>only) >>> >>>There must be no discussions at association meetings that may in any way >>>tend to: a) Raise, lower, or stabilize prices or fees, b) Regulate >>>production levels or schedules, c) Affect the availability of products or >>>services, d) Affect allocation of markets, territories, customers, or >>>patients, e) Encourage boycotts or exclusions of products or services, f) >>>Foster unfair practices involving advertising, merchandising, >>>standardization, certification or accreditation, g) Encourage anyone to >>>refrain from competing, h) Limit or exclude anyone from manufacture, >>>sale, >>>or practice, i) Result in illegal brokerage or rebates, j) Affect >>>improper >>>reciprocity in dealing, k) Current or future prices, l) What constitutes >>>a >>>fair profit or margin level, m) Possible increases or decreases in >>>prices, >>>n) Standardization or stabilization of prices, o) Pricing procedures, p) >>>Cash discounts, q) Credit discounts, r) Control of sales, s) Allocation >>>of >>>markets, t) Refusal to deal with a firm because of its pricing or >>>distribution practices, u) Whether or not the pricing practices of any >>>industry member are unethical or constitute an unfair trade practice, v) >>>Terms or conditions of sale, w) Market share, x) Customer or supplier >>>classification, allocation or selection, y) Decisions to quote or not to >>>quote, z) Sales territories. >>> >>>--Cy-- >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > >>_______________________________________________ >>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > _______________________________________________ > Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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