This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment It=92s under action cloth. =20 May I suggest that since you=92re a beginning tuner, you might leave off =93cracking the unisons=94 for a while until you=92re certain of some = other things like stability, great unisons, and good octaves? If you don=92t have = these, I wouldn=92t focus on cracking unisons, although it does work well once = you=92ve established the primary skills. It=92s like learning to crawl before = walking. But, I=92m not vision impaired, and it might indeed work well for you. = Just a friendly suggestion. =20 John Formsma _____ =20 From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of pianotune05@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:08 PM To: Pianotech Subject: RE: felt mutes -- was RE: Working while tuning =20 Hi John, I didn' t see the action cloth in schaff. I wonder if it's in a = different section than the regular temperment felt. I might check it out, = although I like cracking the unisons a little better, I might revist cloth again. Marshall =20 -------------- Original message --------------=20 From: "John Formsma" <john@formsmapiano.com>=20 Marshall, =20 Action cloth is what I use. It will last practically forever. When I = ordered it about four years ago, I think it was the medium white cloth. You = might want to order two different kinds to make sure you get the correct thickness. =20 John =20 _____ =20 From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of pianotune05@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 7:33 AM To: Pianotech Subject: RE: felt mutes -- was RE: Working while tuning =20 Hi John, would extra thin temperment strip work in the trebble? I've tried = muting the trebble before, but I didn't have an extra thin temperment strip. I ordered one from Schaff. =20 Marshall =20 -------------- Original message --------------=20 From: "John Formsma" <john@formsmapiano.com>=20 David, =20 Yeah, it was in an upright. Been a long time ago. =20 Have you tried using a strip of action cloth in the treble of verticals? (About 0.090 thick, I think, and cut down the middle.) Pulling the strip = out bit by bit surely beats moving mutes around, especially when you get = toward the end of the treble where you run out of room for the wire handles. = You also don=92t have to finagle around the dampers. I save some time that = way, as it takes me 1 =96 1 =BD minutes to strip the entire piano. I know I = spend more than that moving mutes. But it=92s whatever works best for you. =20 John _____ =20 From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of David Ilvedson Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:06 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: RE: felt mutes -- was RE: Working while tuning =20 Your tuning too many uprights...;-] Felt wedges don't fall out of grands... I do use them in uprights...haven't had any fall out if I can get them between the unisons...but I do have to go to thin rubber mutes in the treble... I gave up on temp strips years ago...SAT III, my ears and 2 mutes David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, California _____ =20 Original message From: "John Formsma"=20 To: Pianotech=20 Received: 1/6/2006 7:10:48 PM Subject: RE: felt mutes -- was RE: Working while tuning Thanks, Terry. =20 I=92ve never used a felt wedge except once when I tried it in the bass. = It kept falling out, so I didn=92t use it again. I like to strip mute the bass=85for speed. Actually, my MO for verticals is to strip the entire = piano, but tune unisons as I go, pulling out the felt when moving to the next string set. It=92s quite a bit faster than moving mutes. Grands are = sometimes done this way, but the action cloth I use for verticals is not quite = thick enough for some grands, so most of the time I use the large rubber = wedges (w/o the wire.) I wouldn=92t think the narrow rubber mutes would do = that well in a grand, although you can make anything work if you want to. :-) =20 John Formsma =20 From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Farrell Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:41 AM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: felt mutes -- was RE: Working while tuning =20 Whereas I've never tried a large rubber wedge, I have tried the regular rubber mutes in the past that I use on uprights. On grands, I find that = the felt mutes are easier to insert, are very stable (stay where you put = them), and mute exceptionally well. You can also place them fairly loosely in = place and still mute well - I always wondered how jamming those rubber mutes = in between strings might be affecting the pitch of a string that was = already tuned. =20 They just seem to work better to me. =20 And besides, they don't make that screeching noise that a rubber mute = can sometimes make! =20 Terry Farrell ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/6d/d5/a1/46/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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