This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment January 09, 2005 Dear Mr. Swafford: Thank you for your reply to my post. I will take your advise and contact = the regional vice president. Although you were the only one to reply = on this forum, I received numerous posts sent personally and have gained = a great deal of insight regarding this matter. Thank you all for taking = the time in helping us with this matter. Sincerely, Louise Moffatt Calgary, Alberta Canada R.Moffatt & Sons Piano 2323 Lincoln Drive S.W. Calgary, Alberta , Canada T3E 5G4 Phone. 403.243.0385 www.moffattpianos.com Fax. 403.243.6821 email: moffatt5@telus.net ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kent Swafford=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Message for chapters Regional vice presidents of the Piano Technicians Guild can sometimes = be of great assistance to those having difficulty for one reason or = another in becoming members of PTG. Contacts are available at: http://www.ptg.org/aboutUs-chaptersAndRegions.php Kent Swafford President Piano Technicians Guild pres@ptg.org On Jan 7, 2006, at 2:27 PM, R.Moffatt & Sons Piano wrote: Hi Jeanni, A little off the topic you are discussing, but PTG related. My = husband and two Sons applied for associate membership to the local = chapter about a year ago. My husband was a member from 1975 to 1985, was = factory trained by Yamaha for one year in 1974, and has trained at least = one member of the local chapter. We both encouraged our boys to join = the PTG firstly because of their positions - being responsible for and = maintaining a very unique keyboard collection our community is so = fortunate to have. Secondly, as a sign of good faith and encouragement = my husband would re-join as well. We both agree with your statement = that the PTG can be a very good resource, in the piano technology field = you never stop learning. My youngest son was accepted as an associate = but not so for my husband and eldest son. When we asked why (question put to the then president of the = chapter), he said they had a "secret ballot" and was not allowed to give = a reason. Is this "normal" PTG procedure? It seems to me to contradict = the PTG "mission statement."=20 Could you, or anyone else with a similar experience, shed a little = light? My husband Bob has asked me not to bother with this but.....I am = curious and will hit the "send" button. Thank you Louise Moffatt Calgary, Alberta Canada R.Moffatt & Sons Piano 2323 Lincoln Drive S.W. Calgary, Alberta , Canada T3E 5G4 Phone. 403.243.0385 www.moffattpianos.com Fax. 403.243.6821 email: moffatt5@telus.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean May To: 'Pianotech' Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:58 AM Subject: RE: Message for chapters Jeanni wrote: It might take a while of attending meetings before people will = respond to your needs. The members may not jump up and come to your = rescue just because you showed up. Give them a chance to see how serious = you are about learning, to get to know you and appreciate you as a = person. I've seen it happen time after time..... after this "getting to = know you" period, someone may just step forward and take you under = his/her wing. PTG is a great resource, but like anything else, it's up = to you to make most of the effort to learn.=20 Jeanni had some excellent things to say but I wanted to comment on = this. It is always difficult to =93break in=94 to any kind of group, = particularly one that is exclusive and closed. Add to the mix someone = inexperienced in the craft who is suffering perceived intimidation from = the other expert attenders and it is especially difficult. I had been in = the business almost 20 years before I joined my =93local=94 chapter (80 = miles local) so I was not inexperienced in the craft but I still felt = intimidated and like an outsider. Not that the others in the chapter are = snobbish, far from it. It is just the nature of things. It would behoove all of us involved in local chapters to take = steps to minimize this breaking in period. It has to be intentional; it = won=92t happen automatically. Name badges are a very good first step. = They are cheap and they work. It is hard to develop any kind of friendly = relationship when every time you see someone you are embarrassed because = you can=92t remember their name. A photo directory would also be good. And then old timers have to go out of their comfort zone to make = newcomers feel friendly and welcome. This involves conversation, guys. = That=92s the thing we see women doing with each other when we see their = lips moving. ;-) There were 2 or 3 regulars in my chapter that did this = for me, and it works. Dean Dean May cell 812.239.3359 PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272 Terre Haute IN 47802 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/b9/70/55/30/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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