Pitch Raise

[Jeannie Grassi]

Marcel,
Good points.  I'm glad you clarified.  
jeannie

Jeannie Grassi, RPT
Assistant Editor, Piano Technicians Journal
mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net


-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Marcel Carey
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:48 PM
To: 'Pianotech'
Subject: RE : Pitch Raise

Hi Jeannie,

Sorry if I wasn't as clear as I would have liked to. I never meant to
imply that one should spend time setting pins. I just wanted to say that
one could get experience in "feeling" what the movement of tuning lever
does to different pianos while "speed tuning". Tuning experience in this
case also involve quick evaluation of intervals biofeedback of how much
pressure to excerce on lever to move the pins to produce just the right
amount of change in the pitch.

Marcel



> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org 
> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] De la part de Jeannie Grassi
> Envoyé : 8 janvier 2006 13:59
> À : 'Pianotech'
> Objet : RE: Pitch Raise
> 
> 
> Hi Marcel,
> This is a great description of pitch raising, however, I'd 
> like to offer one caveat about your suggestion to practice 
> tuning lever technique on "speed tuning" pitch raises.  If 
> time is taken to set the pin and string when pitch raising, 
> not only will that slow down the "speed tuning" but it will 
> give different results in terms of the results of overpull.  
> If no overpull is done on this first pass, then the piano 
> will be left a little shy of pitch for the fine tuning.  
> Somewhere this needs to be compensated for. 
> 
> When I was starting out, I used to make this mistake and 
> would end up with a consistently sharp piano that I would 
> then have to lower before the final pass.  I saw pitch raises 
> as a chance to work on my hammer technique, as you suggest, 
> and for a long time I didn't realize why I was having problems.  
> 
> Now, I realize I've made a few assumptions about what you 
> mean by tuning lever technique, but I think this might be 
> important to address in relationship to pitch raises so as 
> not to confuse our beginners the way I was many years ago. jeannie 
> 
> Jeannie Grassi, RPT
> Assistant Editor, Piano Technicians Journal 
> mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org 
> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf > Of Marcel Carey
> 
> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 3:37 PM
> To: 'Pianotech'
> Subject: RE : Pitch Raise
> 
> Now Boys and girls,
> 
> Pitch raising is nothing but a rough tuning done to bring the 
> piano up to pitch or closer to pitch. The only advantage of 
> ETD (Electronic Tuning Devices) is that they have a program 
> to measure how far flat are the notes just before we tune 
> them and then the program overshoots a certain % above the 
> normal pitch. All this is done with the hope that after the 
> pitch raise (rough tuning), the piano will be close to pitch 
> and tunable in one pass.
> 
> Now for beginners, Pitch raises are a fantastic opportunity 
> to learn and practice your tuning lever technique. This is 
> the most important thing to practice. You will get the feel 
> for different pianos and tuning pins and see how they react 
> to different techniques of the lever. 
> 
> So, be thankfull when you get to raise the pitch of a piano. 
> Think of the practice and remember that you don't have to 
> listen so hard on the first pass. Just tune it as fast as 
> humanly possible. You'll get very good experience.
> 
> Marcel Carey, RPT
> Sherbrooke, QC 
> > 
> > Thanks for your help, Ron. That makes sense, though I wish
> > there was a more 
> > definite answer. I guess pitch raising aurally is a tricky 
> > skill to learn.
> > 
> >
> 
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